I came across these and was wondering if anyone had any further info on them? Bilstein 6112
part number for the tundra.. 46-206084
part number for the tundra.. 46-206084
Bilstein 6112 series?
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Hey all,
I'm going to be a Tundra owner again soon. Having said that I have a set of these on my 2015 4Runner Limited. Having done a 500 mile trip a few weeks ago and of that 150 miles of off road ranging from washboard to rock crawling they rock.
One cautionary tale however. The 6112 and 5160 are motorsport products. As such there is a very short window where Bilstein will help you. I had an issue and it was outside the circle of love. Would still buy them again but thought I'd throw it out there.
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I'm going to be a Tundra owner again soon. Having said that I have a set of these on my 2015 4Runner Limited. Having done a 500 mile trip a few weeks ago and of that 150 miles of off road ranging from washboard to rock crawling they rock.
One cautionary tale however. The 6112 and 5160 are motorsport products. As such there is a very short window where Bilstein will help you. I had an issue and it was outside the circle of love. Would still buy them again but thought I'd throw it out there.
Love them
Phil
Why the need to replace the springs also?
I have a question about the springs? Why do we need to replace the stock springs with the Bilstein springs? I’m happy with the ride of the springs I have. I just want to raise the front of my 2013 tundra platinum 4x4 by 2 inches. Is it really necessary to install the Bilstein springs? What are they going to do differently than the springs I already have? I’m thinking they are an added cost that is not necessary. Are their springs preparatory to the new shocks?
I have a question about the springs? Why do we need to replace the stock springs with the Bilstein springs? I’m happy with the ride of the springs I have. I just want to raise the front of my 2013 tundra platinum 4x4 by 2 inches. Is it really necessary to install the Bilstein springs? What are they going to do differently than the springs I already have? I’m thinking they are an added cost that is not necessary. Are their springs preparatory to the new shocks?
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Don't get the 6112's then. Look at the 5100's.
I can buy both front and rear shocks for around $360.00
I can buy both the front and rear shocks for around $360.00.
Why are they charging so much more for the 6112 series shocks?
What is better about them?
https://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Sho...?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1475608741&sr=1-4-fkmr1&keywords=tundra+Bilstein+6112
I can buy both the front and rear shocks for around $360.00.
Why are they charging so much more for the 6112 series shocks?
What is better about them?
https://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Sho...?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1475608741&sr=1-4-fkmr1&keywords=tundra+Bilstein+6112
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If you compare the specs on them
The 6112's are a 2.5" shock, bigger shaft, softer springs, and better valving. Just basically stronger all around.
5100's are a small upgrade to oem. Nothing wrong with them, they are one of the best ways to level out your truck. If you want a little more performance than stock but don't want to spend the cash on a full set of coilovers, the 6112's fill the void.
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The 6112 is a spring and shock kit, it comes with both... is adjustable. The 5160 has a dual reservoir.
The 5100 is only the shock set and no dual reservoir.
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There are a thousand suspension threads about the differences and I am by no means an expert, but basically if you are looking to level your truck and you don't need the off road performance of the 6612/5160, then the 5100 is a good choice.
If you are looking to get a much beefier setup for off road, get the 6112/5160 combo.
If you are looking to bomb through the desert and want the ability to rebuild your shocks, then look at Icon, King or Fox. That's a different can of worms though.
Like I said, I'm no expert. Im still learning all this stuff too.
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my best advice is to buy 'the most shock' that you can afford. Or, in the case of most tundra owners, the most shock that you can justify.
Even on the street a 6112 will provide the very best performance possible considering it is a shock proportionate to a 6500lb truck, not a tacoma
My trucks running Kings handle better on the road than they did stock, and just happen to be able to off road really well too.
Correctly setting up a truck for off road, will make that truck handle better on road as a side effect
Even on the street a 6112 will provide the very best performance possible considering it is a shock proportionate to a 6500lb truck, not a tacoma
My trucks running Kings handle better on the road than they did stock, and just happen to be able to off road really well too.
Correctly setting up a truck for off road, will make that truck handle better on road as a side effect
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I had 5100's on my last tundra ('13 DC 4x4) on stock coils set at the highest setting. Also had 5100's @ top notch with stock coils on my taco.
Just put the 6112's on my '14 Crewmax 4x4.
I can definitely say that the 6112's ride much much better than the 5100's. I haven't hit any washboard roads with it yet but driving on normal roads is super smooth. It's doesn't feel like a floating whale anymore.
Just put the 6112's on my '14 Crewmax 4x4.
I can definitely say that the 6112's ride much much better than the 5100's. I haven't hit any washboard roads with it yet but driving on normal roads is super smooth. It's doesn't feel like a floating whale anymore.
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I don't know the length between the two coil springs, so they may be different. If so, then the adjustment along the shock shaft may give a different ride height for each set of springs. More importantly, though, is that the 6112 shock is supposedly valved for the spring rate of the coil spring provided. I believe the 6112 springs have a lighter spring rate than the stock ones, so the valving may be off and the shock will demonstrate a different damping effect. That's probably the main reason you shouldn't use the stock springs.
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The factory Tundra spring rate is 700lbs. The B6112 spring rate is 600lbs. The result is a spring that allows the compression in the shocks to provide a better smoother ride. They're also longer springs which allows you to adjust the ride height.
Yes you need to replace them if you're going to use the B6112 shock body.
X2 on all of the above mentioned statements in reference to your question on why a new set of springs vs using stock springs. The springs that come with the 6112s are made for that shock and for better performance than a 5100 w/a stock spring. That being said, the performance is noticeable, but not significant for those not doing much off-roading. It's a step up from 5100, but step down from more expensive and capable custom/rebuildable coilovers. It is an EXCELLENT value considering their capability and price. A 2.6" shock with it's own coils from a reputable manufacturer is usually well over $500 per shock and up. Here you can get 2 for just over $500. I'm more than happy with my 6112/5160 combo. It's a softer more dampened ride and thus more controlled than 5100s with stock springs. If you don't have a lot of experience with suspension and it's nuances, you may not even notice it.
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Alright, I've bitched about the firm/stiff ride of my 6112s on my 2WD 2014 SR5.
Although I didn't like the squishy floating ride of the stock black shocks and I needed/wanted to lift the front.
Read here that spacer lifts were not the way to level it, so I went with the 6112s.
Never had a problem with the stock ride of my 2005 stock 2WD DC with a rear sway bar.
The wife and I always take my truck, and I drive, when we go somewhere, my choice.
But we did take her MKC to do some running around last weekend.
She never complained about the ride of my truck before or after the shock swap.
But this is what I realized after driving her car on Dallas roads:
It isn't the 6112s that make my truck ride stiff/firm/choppy.
It is the shitty roads and highways we have down here.
Her little Lincoln rode just as stiff and firm as my Tundra did.
So no more complaining from me about the ride of the 6112s.
Although I do stand by that the 5100 rears I replaced with 5160s rode just the same.
I should have kept the 5100 rears...
Have a nice weekend...
Although I didn't like the squishy floating ride of the stock black shocks and I needed/wanted to lift the front.
Read here that spacer lifts were not the way to level it, so I went with the 6112s.
Never had a problem with the stock ride of my 2005 stock 2WD DC with a rear sway bar.
The wife and I always take my truck, and I drive, when we go somewhere, my choice.
But we did take her MKC to do some running around last weekend.
She never complained about the ride of my truck before or after the shock swap.
But this is what I realized after driving her car on Dallas roads:
It isn't the 6112s that make my truck ride stiff/firm/choppy.
It is the shitty roads and highways we have down here.
Her little Lincoln rode just as stiff and firm as my Tundra did.
So no more complaining from me about the ride of the 6112s.
Although I do stand by that the 5100 rears I replaced with 5160s rode just the same.
I should have kept the 5100 rears...
Have a nice weekend...
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Currently have the 16 crewmax trd offroad package and really want the height of the PRO tundra or even higher but not a 6 inch lift right now. Been really looking into the 6112/5160 setup but just wondering with everyone on here with the setup. What is the height comparison after installation compared to the PRO tundra. Say both with stock tire/rims. When I had my truck side by side in the parking lot next to a pro I hated the stance on my truck. Any help would be great! Appreciate it crew.
The pro is 2in higher in the front then non-pro trucks. The 6112 raises the tundra .75in - 2.5in depending on the spring perch setting. I had my 6112's on the highest setting for a few days before adding shackles and I was dead even. Rear was about 1/4in higher. The 6112 on the 2nd to the highest setting should yield you the Pro stance (around ~2in front lift)
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Nice! So I'm looking to set the 6112 highest setting, then in the rear with the 5160- should I add rear shackle, add a leaf, or bloack....probably the shackle correct? What brand did you go with? What wheel and tire setup you run? Thanks.
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If you want to run the 6112 on the top setting your best bet would be a +3 shackle from Coachbuilder in the rear for a completely level stance. You'll end up sitting a touch higher (.5"-1") than the TRDPros.
I got +2 coachbuilder shackles because I wanted a little rake. Currently sits 1.5in higher in the rear. I think with the +1 shackles it would sit pretty much like a Pro. Stock tires/wheels until spring.
Pics in this thread. http://www.tundratalk.net/forums/tu...orums/tundra-suspension-talk/622002-2016-platinum-6112-5160-installed-pics.html
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