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Leveling kit effect different on two Tundras

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So just got my second Tundra yesterday, 2012 rock warrior crew max 4x4. completely factory with trd wheels and BFG tires that they come with. Thrilled and love it. That being said I wanted to throw out a question that some may be asking and hopefully it will help others as well down the road.

I had a leveling kit on my 2010 crew max 4x4 Sr5 with 20 inch moto metal wheels and Nitto tires (fantastic tire and was happy with it). From the beginning and after countless trips to the shop, truck always pulled to the right. The tire wear was fine and never had any problems but no matter what it always pulled to the right.

I traded this 2010 Sr5 in for the 2012 crew max 4x4 rock warrior package which has the bilstein shocks that come factory, as well as the trd wheels and BFG tires, everything completely stock.

I understand that leveling kits are simply spacers that raise the front of the truck further above the springs to give that levelled look. From what my physic thinking says this should thus not have any affect on how the truck handles in terms of suspension, stiff ness of ride, and pulling one or the other way. (correct me if I am wrong here).

After much talk, here is my question: Considering that I have the same factory truck but with two different shocks setups now (all factory) can i expect the ride and feel of this different factory set up to remain after I do a leveling kit. In other words, will my rock warrior suspension feel like the rock warrior suspension after a leveling kit, or will it feel just like my Sr5 suspension with a leveling kit?
 
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#2 ·
Valving in the stock SR5 struts/shocks is softer than the Rock Warrior there for will feel different. By adding a leveling kit of any kind will not change the feel of the struts/shocks.
Your struts/shocks are the yellow bilsteins front and rear correct?
 
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They are the blue bilstein shocks, front and back. Yes, the rock warrior feels much stiffer than the SR5. I like that and want to keep that feel but give it that levelled out look. Plus the tires arent as wide as my 20's on the SR5. From reading the recommended pressure of 46 psi on the rock warrior tires, they themselves probably provide stiffer feel.

I am glad my thinking was correct that it shouldnt feel different to have a spacer on top of the suspension/springs/shocks.

Would the slightly higher center of gravity provide any change in feel. I know its only about 2.5 to 3 inches but I feel this wouldnt change too much (slightly of course)
 
#4 ·
Lower center of gravity is always best but in this situation you'll be great. IMO leveling the truck is a win win not only do they look 100% better but the stance helps with handling/feel.
 
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I agree. I really want to level it for the look. I love the feel now and love the wheel and tires so the level kit if it doesnt change that will be the cherry on top.

On the previous SR5 I had that "pulling to the right" issue. Is that something that a level kit can do if you dont add anything but the level kit? the one kit I am thinking of has a level spacer for front and 1" block for the leaf springs in the rear, in addition a front diff drop kit since mine is a 4x4. I think a alignment is necessary after the level kit but just wanted to throw that question out there too.
 
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One more additional question. In the long run does a level kit bind ball joints, CV's, Ect as a result of not limiting the travel of the suspension, thus setting me up for problems down the road?
 
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The Tundra is designed with allot of travel, so by adding the leveling kit will not effect the front suspension by any means. The angles/geometry does change but by using the diff drop helps correct the angles of the CV's. Ball joints/tie rods ends are still very well with in a comfortable position after the leveling kit is installed.
 
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I just leveled my 2011 Tundra SR5 with the rough country 3/1.5 kit and dont have any difference in ride comfort. I love it and makes it look way better! You will need an alignment afterward though. My truck had a severe positive camber after the install. Was easily fixed with an alignment from a good shop!
 
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Also make sure the kit has front diff drop spacers and that will keep your cv's and such near factory angles. I'm pretty happy with the Rough country kit, got the kit and install for $450.
 
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I was looking at the Toytec one or the rough country. How many hours did the shop charge you for?

Yes, the kits I was considering all had the front diff drop so glad to hear that will reduce risk of CV angle change.

I am afraid that the place I had done my previous level kit may not have realized the camber issue. Is that common with level kits or was it unique to your situation? Did you do lift and wheels all at once or did you keep original wheels for a bit after the lift was done?
 
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The rough country kit online is roughly $126 for the front and $45 for the rear blocks. so some arround $200 I'm sure with their cost and shipping. leaving $260 for labor. The kit calls for 3 hrs but they had mine a little longer. I actually only paid $360 because they chipped the paint on my driver side fender on the bottom edge. So they had it touched up for me and took off the labor for the rear blocks which was $100. The chip isnt even noticeable touched up. Accidents happen and they were straight up about it and tookcare of it!
 
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Thanks Bad Dad's Tundra. That is good info and the camber makes very good sense. I can imagine since I had the oversize tires the toyota dealership outsourced the alignment and those guys didnt know what they are doing. With the factory wheels and tires that I intend to keep on they should be able to do the alignment righ there in the dealership.

Side question. if you have the \ / position of the tires, what is adjusted to make them I I ?
 
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yes, your understanding is correct. I would think for your situation youd benefit from going with the bilstein 5100s for lift vs a spacer lift since you are actually going to take the truck off the pavement.
 
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I had a caster pull from the factory, then after my first install it seemed to have gone away (however that alignment was not supposed to be permanent) it had some camber issues, but as said before, was not supposed to be permanent, only about 2-5 weeks... well 4 months later i re-leveled it (spring rate issue) and then realigned and now that the camber is right, I am back to the slight factory caster pull, its the same spec now caster as it was stock before first alignment, after first alignment, before second alignment and after second alignment...

at this point I figured hell with it, its very slight.
 
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