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I have a '16 crew max, limited, TRD. I also have a 7,000 pound travel trailer with weight distribution hitch. Took them both on a road trip and am left with some questions leading me to wonder if a 2500HD would be a better fit.

1) A cross wind (not too out of the ordinary) kicked my ass. Highway speed 65mph. A lot of trailer sway transferred to the truck. Made for a lot of white knuckle driving, freaked me out (having the family). Would a 2500HD, being heavier, help this? (Is the rear end heavier?)

2) I had it in tow/haul mode doing ~65mph. The RPMs were pretty much stuck at 3100 and I think in 4th gear. On occasion it would up-shift to about 2500 RPMs. The 2500 RPMs was much quieter and comfortable of a ride. Is there a remedy for this / way to maintain the 2500 RPMs (I tried taking it out of tow/haul with no success)? I'm wondering if a 2500HD truck would make for a better ride?

Don't get me wrong, I love the truck, its bullet proof as we know - but had a long stressful day behind the wheel and am wondering if a 2500HD would help.

Thanks for your thoughts and help.
 

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Yep to your first question although you will probably feel sidewinds with a bigger trailer regardless the size of truck. And for the 2nd, yes if you get a diesel.
 

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Yep to your first question although you will probably feel sidewinds with a bigger trailer regardless the size of truck. And for the 2nd, yes if you get a diesel.
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In actuality, as stated... Unless you got a 3/4+ Diesel, you really won't have much more weight. With a trailer that large you will feel wind. No way around that. PERIOD.


I have towed trailers with 1/2 tons, 3/4 tons, 1 tons, and even 450/550/650's.

When you talk of the same trailer on the trucks, it tows the same. Especially if it is in the weight category that a half ton can tow.

I have found 3/4 ton gassers that tow my puny single axle open trailer worse than my Tundra. SCLB with a 6.0 4x4 2500hd towed it fine, but not near as well as my Tundra. That is just one example.

A 7x20 TA enclosed, my truck tows equal to our sclb f350 gasser, but without being super laggy and underpowered. Handles the weight and wind the same.

Now you toss a diesel in that mix, the weight and torque, that changes things.

Remember, 3/4 tons are not necessarily that much heavier. Nor are they that much larger. I laugh when I see people say "Try to park a 3/4 ton, they are so much larger..." Or "My 3/4 ton is sooo much heavier than your half ton...."




I think no matter what truck you have, unless it is an f350 Diesel Crew cab, you will still have the white knuckle feeling in that wind.

How was the trailer balanced? That has a lot to do with sway too.

Are you new to towing, or have you towed for years? This all comes into play.
 
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What kind of wdh setup do you have. What sway control are u running? Did u air up your tires. I have a 17 crewmax limited with a 6" lift and 35s. Equalizer wdh with built in sway. Tow my 30' 7500lb trailer fine. I put in tow haul mode manual shift stay in 4th and go no faster than 60. 9.5mpg.



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I am new to pulling a travel trailer - its 31 feet by the way. I was pulling across WI and MN, pretty flat and rolling hills. I figured HDs have a heavier axel and would help with sway?

I have a Fast Way E2 equalization hitch.

Thanks for the responses!
 

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Am also brand new to towing. Using a 2006 Tundra 4.7L and pulling a Lance 25 foot RV TT at around 4000 pounds. Getting 8 ish mpg to 9 sometimes. The trailer ratings say never go above 60mph ever, and that is with four wheels in this all new tires. You need to get used traveling slower.

As far as cross winds, you need to consider wind weather forecast when you drive. You now have a lot of wind blockage and only four smallish wheels


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I am new to pulling a travel trailer - its 31 feet by the way. I was pulling across WI and MN, pretty flat and rolling hills. I figured HDs have a heavier axel and would help with sway?



I have a Fast Way E2 equalization hitch.



Thanks for the responses!


You need a better sway control setup. Upgrade to the equalizer 4pt with built in sway. U will notice a huge difference


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Equalizer WDH is the best investment to help with the white knuckle driving. I had a tire explode on me on my 31' and the trailer never moved from behind my truck.
 

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No doubt you need sway control if that's what was bothering you. I'd also try not to fret about the 3100 RPM even though it's louder. That's where the power band lies and where the truck will perform best, both engine and transmission.

As a former Ram CTD owner nothing will ever beat the power delivery of a diesel, but I'd strongly recommend you factor in how much you TRUELY need the diesel. They are meant to do one thing, WORK and WORK HARD.

I got rid of mine as a weekend camper for my Tundra. If you do a lot of city driving, idling, or even just don't pull more than when you go camping it's not worth the potential headaches of having a diesel unless you delete the emissions, which in turn will involve tuning the truck and losing the factory warranty. The EGR & DPF are kept clean by pulling loads and moving the truck at highway speeds. The less of that you do, the more soot you build up which in turn creates more regenerations to clean the diesel particulates out of the filter.

I'll always miss the power of my CTD but I'll never own another one unless I win the lottery and I'm able to delete emissions and tune the truck.
 

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i think you just need a few more miles under your belt and you will feel much better towing.... if you dont watch the fuel gauge lol
 

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In actuality, as stated... Unless you got a 3/4+ Diesel, you really won't have much more weight. With a trailer that large you will feel wind. No way around that. PERIOD.

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I think no matter what truck you have, unless it is an f350 Diesel Crew cab, you will still have the white knuckle feeling in that wind.

How was the trailer balanced? That has a lot to do with sway too.

Are you new to towing, or have you towed for years? This all comes into play.
Not to hijack, but it is well thought out and reasonable responses like these that make this forum so good.
 
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The diesel is the key, like others have pointed out. Right now I still have a 4K pound hybrid camper but I got rid of my Tundra Pro because we will soon be upgrading to a 5th wheel toy hauler. The Tundra obviously had zero issues with my camper but the driving experience with the Tundra vs. my new 3/4 diesel is night and day. With the Tundra I never felt relaxed. I'm sure a lot of that was just the noise you get pulling 3k+ RPM combined with the TRD exhaust but whatever the case, even with that small camper I always felt like I was playing with the gas pedal to maintain speed and the constant downshifting got old, even at 65 MPH; I was always giving input and never able to just relax a bit. With the diesel all of that went away. Obviously my current camper is a joke for this truck and it will work a bit harder with the new toy hauler but this thing cruises down the highway at 65 MPH doing about 1600 RPM and almost never has a need to downshift; it is a totally different towing experience. I love Toyota and especially the Tundra which is why I have owned two of them and a Tacoma but sometimes the Tundra just isn't the best truck for a given purpose. Like others have said, you can certainly improve things to a degree if you properly setup your tow rig but none of that will come close to the experience you will have with a larger truck with a diesel. The major downside though is that you will lose your 1/2 ton ride quality when not towing. My 3/4 ton does not ride horribly but it is nothing like the ride of a 1/2 ton.
 

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Co-Worker and I was just talking. He went to Las Vegas from Texas with his 32 foot travel trailer that weighs 13k lb. He drives a 2010 Silverado 2500HD Duramax. Truck has been fine except some other issues he has had. But he is done with it after this trip. It broke down after he got to Las Vegas. Basically 2 days before returning the Turbo went out on it. $5500 later, and another week of vacation lost waiting for the truck to get fixed, he was able to get back. He is going to sell it and get a GAS 2500HD. He loves the truck, but hates the diesel costs and issues that come with it.

The 3/4 ton trucks including the Titan HD are all much heavier, and aren't prone to be moved around with wind as much as 1/2 tons. Honestly, I'd look at the Titan XD as it can pull more than the Tundra and ride/drives like a 1/2 ton. It's 7700lb of weight will do better with the winds.
 

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Co-Worker and I was just talking. He went to Las Vegas from Texas with his 32 foot travel trailer that weighs 13k lb. He drives a 2010 Silverado 2500HD Duramax. Truck has been fine except some other issues he has had. But he is done with it after this trip. It broke down after he got to Las Vegas. Basically 2 days before returning the Turbo went out on it. $5500 later, and another week of vacation lost waiting for the truck to get fixed, he was able to get back. He is going to sell it and get a GAS 2500HD. He loves the truck, but hates the diesel costs and issues that come with it.

The 3/4 ton trucks including the Titan HD are all much heavier, and aren't prone to be moved around with wind as much as 1/2 tons. Honestly, I'd look at the Titan XD as it can pull more than the Tundra and ride/drives like a 1/2 ton. It's 7700lb of weight will do better with the winds.


Not sure about your specs/ratings for the Titan XD. It's a 1/2 ton truck, and has a curb weight of 5,800 lbs, 9,800 lb towing, smaller fuel tank. The Cummins V8 diesel version weighs more and has higher ratings.

Unless I'm missing something. I researched and drove the Titan XD before buying the Tundra. Titan XD was a nice truck, but for the $$ and dependability the Tundra worked for me. My Diesel days are over.


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I have a toyhauler that is about 7500 lbs, been pulling it for years with the Tundra and an equalizer wdh. Truck always felt pretty solid even in high wind situations. Got rid of the Tundra and bought a new Ram 2500 CTD and all I can say is WOW. Obviously the power difference is huge but the 2500 platform is SOOOOOO much more stable than the Tundra was/is. Honestly the ride between my Tundra and the new Ram 2500 is pretty close but on the freeway my Ram is way better...no more bed bounce. Around town the Tundra is more nimble and easier to park. I really wanted another Tundra but couldn't wait for Toyota to pull their head out of their asses and step up so i bought the Ram and I'm glad I did.
 

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I have a toyhauler that is about 7500 lbs, been pulling it for years with the Tundra and an equalizer wdh. Truck always felt pretty solid even in high wind situations. Got rid of the Tundra and bought a new Ram 2500 CTD and all I can say is WOW. Obviously the power difference is huge but the 2500 platform is SOOOOOO much more stable than the Tundra was/is. Honestly the ride between my Tundra and the new Ram 2500 is pretty close but on the freeway my Ram is way better...no more bed bounce. Around town the Tundra is more nimble and easier to park. I really wanted another Tundra but couldn't wait for Toyota to pull their head out of their asses and step up so i bought the Ram and I'm glad I did.
I totally forgot you took the same route I did. I agree with you 100% too, on the freeway the Ram is much smoother, around town the Tundra is. I also don't think most realize how much different towing is until they switch.

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You got a RAM too @2010 ?
 

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Anyone who trades a tundra for a ram is a dumbass.....

Or so I was told>:D
 
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