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Or how they're going to wait for a couple of years because they're too conservative to buy the first year of a new model and want to wait it out to see if it's as reliable as their old steed and don't want to be "beta testers" for Toyota's new trial and error program. Others will jump on it due to Fear Of Missing Out on the latest and "greatest" whiz/bang thing, but maybe they can afford it, so good for them.
 

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I wonder if the reason why no one has ever really answered my question in this thread is because they don't really know what it is Toyota should/can do(?)
Can you really say the current platform is "behind" if the competitors simply did something different, bit didn't realistically achieve much?
Maybe people should say they want something different, just for the sake of something different.
In that case, I say buy a different truck.
I don't understand the cry for Toyota to do something different and new every few years when everyone knows that's not their business model.
People buy Toyotas for their reliability. If they adopt the other companies model of constantly trying new things, they will also have to adapt their pricing model and failure rates. It's a catch-22.
People say things like, "I just want 3-4 more mpg". Okay, great. How do you expect them to achieve that? Dark magic?
Is the tundra behind because they don't do cute things with their tailgate like GM?
No thanks. I don't need all those extra parts to collect dust, dirt, salt and rust. And you can't even open the stupid thing if you have a drawbar and hitch ball installed.
Good job GM.
I don't need my truck to do parlor tricks for my friends in the driveway. I need it to do work and be reliable.
Anyway, I don't understand why people bitch about what the Tundra isn't or doesn't have.
It's the perfect truck for some people.
Just go buy a truck that has what you want.
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You asked a question? :dunno::dunno::dunno:
 

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I have the solution for everything as I always do

punch it out to 6.2, 425 HP, 450lbs, 8 speed

15 city/19 highway
 

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They could put a diesel in the tundra, beef up the suspension and tranny a bit and get the same HP, 800# TQ and average 19 mpg across the board.
But it would end up being a $65-70k truck and they would have to expand production facilities just to sell 20-30k of them p/yr.
It won't happen.
They won't go bigger than the 5.7 either.
That's my guess.
We'll see what they're doing in 2021.
I don't see them going with a small turbo'd v6 and I can't see how they pull off 12k towing with a v6 hybrid.
Unless they came up with something completely new, I have no clue what they're planning.
Maybe just tweaked the 5.7 and played with tranny and gearing? Doesn't seem like they want to do much to the tundra.
One thing I will predict is that the interior will be more pussified.
 

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I have the solution for everything as I always do

punch it out to 6.2, 425 HP, 450lbs, 8 speed

15 city/19 highway
Your goal for the new Tundra is to still be second or third place with HP, Torque, and HP / Torque per liter numbers?

Cmon man. You're better than that, if they get the 5.7 to hit those numbers or better, they'll just be competitive. It needs to stay 5.7 and go 460+ / 480+.

I think they should just bring back the supercharger and make it standard, and give us a 10 spd to go with it. Problem solved. >:D
 

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I have the solution for everything as I always do

punch it out to 6.2, 425 HP, 450lbs, 8 speed

15 city/19 highway
Your goal for the new Tundra is to still be second or third place with HP, Torque, and HP / Torque per liter numbers?

Cmon man. You're better than that, if they get the 5.7 to hit those numbers or better, they'll just be competitive. It needs to stay 5.7 and go 460+ / 480+.

I think they should just bring back the supercharger and make it standard, and give us a 10 spd to go with it. Problem solved. <img src="http://tundratalk.net/forums/images/TundraTalk_net/smilies/tango_face_devil.png" border="0" alt="" title="Devil" class="inlineimg" />
I was aiming low for Toyota lol, I doubt we get a beefed up 5.7 or larger

Likely a smaller turbo or hybrid or something but who knows
 

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I think that Toyota should make a full size truck with a capable V8, reliable transmission, tough suspension and frame and geared so it can tow and haul a load well, for people that need a tough, dependable work vehicle.
For people who need a commuter vehicle that gets really good fuel economy, I think they should make a hybrid passenger car that gets 30 mpg.
 

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One thing I will predict is that the interior will be more pussified.
Bingo.

The 2020 will have a 27" touch screen and air fun bags for a rear suspension like Dodge . Butt ( lol ) unlike Dodge most of the new gizmos will actually function in the Toyota because we all know Dodge has its own special blend of breakable plastic and really bad wiring throughout .
 

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I think almost everything I really didn't care for on my 2017 has now been resolved for the 2020.
I am thinking of getting back into tundra likely a 2020 Platinum same as my 17 only with all the updates I only wished my 17 had.

Only couple things didn't make it to the 2020 I had really wanted which were surround view cameras and the Land Cruiser's 8 speed transmission.
 
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