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Guys,
Seeing a lot of QUICK judgement on this truck. I sat in it at Media day and took a lot of photos. I think photos don't do a lot of justice like with the 1794 edition.
Let me clear up a few misnomers:
1. No MPG increase - Frankly, we just don't know yet. MPG and towing numbers won't be released until closer to launch date. The truck lost some weight and is more aerodynamic. It would seem likely that real-world MPG would go up a bit.
Now will MPG numbers ever be like 25 mpgs? No way. Toyota doesn't think that way, they focus on real-world numbers and meeting expectations. If they say you are going to get 21 mpg on highway, then that is what you are going to get. Not 21 mpg if you drive under the EPA conditions (150 lb person driving, no extra truck weight, 55 mph).
2. Styling like F-150. This statement is really a mystery to me, all trucks are heading towards this styling. Why? Aerodynamics. The truth is that you can say all you want about "not being original", but that is crud. You can't belly ache for more MPGs and then want "unique" styling. That combo just can't happen. The styling that trucks are going to is simply a by-product of aerodynamics.
Here is the deal, all trucks will look more and more similar on the outside to traditional truck buyers. That is a fact.
3. Interior is only change? The truth is that you could say the GM twins BIG upgrade was interior. Also, Ford's latest updates have been interior/trim and so has Dodge. They are ALL upgrading interior. I have sat in all the trucks (except GM twins) at the auto shows and Toyota's is the only one that fits the retail customer.
Ford's interior is meant for commercial with some retail. Dodge does some of the same. Interestingly, Toyota envisioned their driver as both male and female when laying out the cab. It is the only one that I have found that is easy for me to drive and get used to. With the other trucks, it is hard for me to reach the touch screens or see the gauges.
4. Styling Ugly. The truth here is that Toyota concedes the styling is polarizing. They state that it isn't for everyone and that is why they have different trim lines. If your a Platinum guy, then you won't like the 1794. If you like the 1794 then you may not like the SR5.
Look, I'm not trying to defend all of Toyota's decisions, just trying to get some understanding into this conversation.
Seeing a lot of QUICK judgement on this truck. I sat in it at Media day and took a lot of photos. I think photos don't do a lot of justice like with the 1794 edition.
Let me clear up a few misnomers:
1. No MPG increase - Frankly, we just don't know yet. MPG and towing numbers won't be released until closer to launch date. The truck lost some weight and is more aerodynamic. It would seem likely that real-world MPG would go up a bit.
Now will MPG numbers ever be like 25 mpgs? No way. Toyota doesn't think that way, they focus on real-world numbers and meeting expectations. If they say you are going to get 21 mpg on highway, then that is what you are going to get. Not 21 mpg if you drive under the EPA conditions (150 lb person driving, no extra truck weight, 55 mph).
2. Styling like F-150. This statement is really a mystery to me, all trucks are heading towards this styling. Why? Aerodynamics. The truth is that you can say all you want about "not being original", but that is crud. You can't belly ache for more MPGs and then want "unique" styling. That combo just can't happen. The styling that trucks are going to is simply a by-product of aerodynamics.
Here is the deal, all trucks will look more and more similar on the outside to traditional truck buyers. That is a fact.
3. Interior is only change? The truth is that you could say the GM twins BIG upgrade was interior. Also, Ford's latest updates have been interior/trim and so has Dodge. They are ALL upgrading interior. I have sat in all the trucks (except GM twins) at the auto shows and Toyota's is the only one that fits the retail customer.
Ford's interior is meant for commercial with some retail. Dodge does some of the same. Interestingly, Toyota envisioned their driver as both male and female when laying out the cab. It is the only one that I have found that is easy for me to drive and get used to. With the other trucks, it is hard for me to reach the touch screens or see the gauges.
4. Styling Ugly. The truth here is that Toyota concedes the styling is polarizing. They state that it isn't for everyone and that is why they have different trim lines. If your a Platinum guy, then you won't like the 1794. If you like the 1794 then you may not like the SR5.
Look, I'm not trying to defend all of Toyota's decisions, just trying to get some understanding into this conversation.
