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Government is looking to put a casino in my back yard. Problem is the location puts it blocking the major commute road for everyone traveling in my direction.
So I am working on not letting it happen.
So I am looking for places where the casino is not living up to the wonderful promises it made to those in government and the people. I know the promise of jobs to the local people is all the low end jobs nobody would move here for. And anything that pays well will move here. And it will not boost tourism to the area enough to notice.
If the casino is a boom, that is good to know also.
 

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Do you live over in Renssalear county?

Government is looking to put a casino in my back yard. Problem is the location puts it blocking the major commute road for everyone traveling in my direction.

So I am working on not letting it happen.

So I am looking for places where the casino is not living up to the wonderful promises it made to those in government and the people. I know the promise of jobs to the local people is all the low end jobs nobody would move here for. And anything that pays well will move here. And it will not boost tourism to the area enough to notice.

If the casino is a boom, that is good to know also.




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Ban large sodas and guns....build Casinos where people get addicted to gambling and lose everything their family has ....OH I see, one of those brings in more tax revenue....nevermind, I thought they had the people in mind.
 
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Ban large sodas and guns....build Casinos where people get addicted to gambling and lose everything their family has ....OH I see, one of those brings in more tax revenue....nevermind, I thought they had the people in mind.
The large soda thing is a NYC thing, not a state thing. And all the casinos will be out of NYC. The gun thing is also a city thing. The city is a big suck on the state.
 

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The large soda thing is a NYC thing, not a state thing. And all the casinos will be out of NYC. The gun thing is also a city thing. The city is a big suck on the state.
I know the soda thing is but I thought the crazy new gun laws were statewide...No?
 

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I don't know about Albany and the surrounding communities, but here in MA the people of the city/town are able to vote on whether they can bring such a controversial business into the town. We're even able to put conditions down if there are enough impacted....like putting money into building new/larger roads if possible or relocating it to a better area to ease residents.
 

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I know the soda thing is but I thought the crazy new gun laws were statewide...No?
It is a statewide thing that only NYC wanted. NYC couldn't get a city law so we all pay. It's like the 1 smoker in the room and everyone else sucks secondhand smoke.
 

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The large soda thing is a NYC thing, not a state thing. And all the casinos will be out of NYC. The gun thing is also a city thing. The city is a big suck on the state.
Funny that I saw an article a while back where the city said the state was a big suck on the city. They said a lot of tax revenue leaves the city to fund the state's rural areas so they wanted to separate from the state and become their own state.
 

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Just shows you how bad the drug problem is in the city. It is like a financial black hole. Money goes in and nothing escapes.
Not as bad as Paris where I've read half of the country's tax money goes to the city.
 

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I thought there would be more "opinions" on casinos, or is everyone too "amish" to even know about them?
 

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Casinos are a bad idea all around. The whole business model is built upon sucking money out of the pockets of people while teasing them with the possibility of easy money. Its dishonest and causes more problems (addiction, bankruptcy) than they claim to solve (unemployment). Fight it. I have no idea how, but if they started doing that in Mn off the reservations, it would be a big problem and people wouldn't stand for it. I live in a blue state where its standard practice for the gubbermit and business to want to build places like that, but when the vote comes, its all about "yes, build it please! it will drive the economy, create jobs, blah bah b;ah, but oh by the way, not in my backyard."

So right now, in MN, they are all out of the city, on indian reservations, or land appropriated by indian tribes. Still a scam.

They've got a lot of money and clout behind them, probably have lots of investors, so it might be a futile fight. Best bet is to find a lawyer that is willing to work on it, and dig into zoning laws and building regulations. Good luck.
 

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I am a gaming agent in MO Casinos..... I like them. But they provide me with a paycheck so I would say I'm a little biased.

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sorry, man, no offense to you with my post. we posted at the same time, I didn't see yours. I still stand by it, but I don't begrudge anyone working there just trying to scratch out a living.
 

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I am a gaming agent in MO Casinos..... I like them. But they provide me with a paycheck so I would say I'm a little biased.
Jobs are a big benefit touted to get the people to push the government to allow them to take our money.
People go to bars instead of the liquor store, pay hookers instead of banging the wife, girlfriend or both.
But as an insider, maybe you could get me info that would help kill mine which means less competition for your employer.
 

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Every casino I know of has a radius of low/no income trash surrounding it. Which in turn has crime, meth heads, junkies, and garbage

Just sayin.....
 

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Jobs are a big benefit touted to get the people to push the government to allow them to take our money.
People go to bars instead of the liquor store, pay hookers instead of banging the wife, girlfriend or both.
But as an insider, maybe you could get me info that would help kill mine which means less competition for your employer.

Well.... They do bring in relatively high paying jobs for people with no more than a high school education.

They typically embellish where the tax revenue goes though. That may be a good thing for you to investigate. A lot of times they say the revenue goes to schools which it does... But then the matching amount gets taken out and thrown back into the general fund for the state. If people were more aware of that then you may have a good argument.

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There is a really shitty city with a high murder rate and all kinds of crime about 10 minutes from me. Notorious for problems in the last few years. They got a soccer stadium and a new Harrah's within the last 10 or 15 years. The two were supposed to revitalize the place, pump new money, investment, jobs, etc… into the area and turn it into something totally different, a sports/gambling venue to attract tourists visiting Philly, which is only 20 minutes north of it.

It remains a violent shit hole. The companies can't or don't want to hire in that area so the jobs went to people who commute in from surrounding suburbs. There may be some janitorial or other menial labor positions that went to residents of the city but they're damn sure not making 50K per year dealing at the black jack table or working security or anything. Outside money goes in from other areas then goes right back out to investors and employees who don't live there. Most of it doesn't stay in the city. Maybe it might have helped somewhat with the local tax burden but that doesn't appear to have been enough to meaningfully change anything. Everybody is still sitting here wondering why all that money was invested and all those incentives were offered to build this stuff and the area around it is still so horrible years later when revitalization was supposed the goal.

I hear revenue is pretty strong though so SOMEBODY is making money. Just not the people they swore would be helped most by this.
 
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