I was in a mood. I wasn't able to play basketball at lunch and burn off some steam. I guess I brought the 5er comment on myself with the Ultralite thing.The 5er comment was supposed to be a funny retort to your "we all shouldn't tow more than a 2500# ultralite" comment you closed with...
These conversations can go on forever. And after this cycle of comments everyone will forget and believe whatever they want.
Overloading the truck in ANY way is not acceptable, ever. And simply because there is no law governing it is not a standard to accept. Making the smarter choice for yourself before the government does step in is what it is about.
No offense meant dude...
"Overloaded" in the Tundra is funny to me. Toyota is the only manufacturer to abide by the J2807 towing standards. I feel that if they didn't go with strict standards and posted weights 10% higher then with the increased buffer nobody would be asking these questions for many of the TTs. If I'm over my 1440 payload by 100 lbs I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
I personally had 1200 lbs of sand in my truck a few weeks ago as well as two grown male passengers and I couldn't tell it was there. I think I bumped a bump stop though going slowly over a bump so I would have liked to have air bags and will install them before loading up like that again.
Not directed at you, but just referring back to my post, here is a good post about WDHs.