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So my problem as I thought was due to a bad steering rack but after installing a brand new steering rack and outer tie rod ends the issue remains.

When I drive forward the tires toe out real bad and when I go in reverse the tires straighten out/toe inward.

I have King Coilovers that are making ~3" of lift, Icon Billet Adjustable UCAs, stock LCAs with about 400mi and brand new spindles. The alignment has 4mi on it and did nothing to fix the issue.

Really confused to what the issue could be. I just removed the Rough County lift kit and that had 20,000mi on it and just began to do the same thing over the last 100mi before I decided to remove it.

Any help?????
 

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Not a clue, the shop has a laser setup. They have aligned my truck 8 times over the past 4yrs and the truck has always rode good.
 

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What if you jack up your front end, then try to force your wheels to turn right/left (toe in/out) maybe you'll hear/see the culprit :dunno:

I have tried to twist the front while off the ground but never seen anything that pointed to an issue. I never really got anything other than the tire to jiggle.
 

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I had friends that had to replace their lower ball joints with special ones because of this issue.
Special ones? Please tell me more.
 

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Looks like Raybestos sells them. I'll give them a shot and see what happens.
 

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Something is moving, could be the ball joint. Also make sure the lower control arm eccentrics are tight and are tight against the guides
 
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Well unless your experiencing an issue they toe out under accelerate is normal and the toe back in under load. Why? Well height as you accelerate the weight of truck shifts reducing the load on the front springs allowing for the spring to extend back to natural position(free). This causes the suspension to droop and in tundras application it toes out.
You can play around with ball joints and everything but not sure anything will fix it. I have my truck toed in slightly to offset this action but I have alot more travel. It also dont help that the rack on these trucks shift quite a bit from side to side. Ive been a alignment and suspension specialist since 18 and now 36 Ive set up hundreds of race cars and help develop the lazer alignment machines. Cant say I know it all but I do know a bit. Now as far as extreme toe that your talking about Have the shop add caster as much as possible and toe in as well. This can help offset the issue. But honestly its hard to know just by looking if your toe is extreme. But do know you could have an issue in the rack that even being new that may cause it. You might have to adjust ride height down some as well. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Well unless your experiencing an issue they toe out under accelerate is normal and the toe back in under load.

I understand what your saying but the toe is moving close to 6" in and out. I got the ball joints so I once I get the press tool to remove them I will swap them out.
 

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can you take a tape measure and take a measurement from front of front wheels and a measurement rear of front wheels? The front measurement should be 1/8" smaller than the rear measurement. Also, take a level and see if the front tires stand straight up or if they are + or - camber. + means top are out further than bottom, - means bottom is out further than top. it should stand straight up and down.
 

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I had this issue after I got home from the dealer after they installed new rack...

They didn't tighten the axle/hub nut correctly on the drivers side.

I could wiggle the tire back and forth...
However, if you had it up in the air you would have noticed if it were this issue...

I would start to wonder if the lca inner bushings are toast.
 

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can you take a tape measure and take a measurement from front of front wheels and a measurement rear of front wheels? The front measurement should be 1/8" smaller than the rear measurement. Also, take a level and see if the front tires stand straight up or if they are + or - camber. + means top are out further than bottom, - means bottom is out further than top. it should stand straight up and down.

I did a half ass job at this a couple weeks ago and the toe was about 6" different front and back and the toe was 3" top to bottom.
 

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It doesn't, well I have the tie rods adjusted all the way in and other than the drive home from the alignment shop (which it was raining) I have only driven it up and down a dirt road a couple times. Before i removed the lift kit I also had the UCA adjusted way out and alignment cam bolts maced out for toe during my drive home during the outing I think I broke it.
 
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