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0w-20 vs 0w30

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This is not a motor oil question or review, just an experience. I took my truck to the dealer last saturday for them to change my oil (first mistake). I bought 2 gallons of amsoil ss 0w-30, knowing our truck takes 7.9quarts. 1 gallon equals 4 quarts, so 8 quarts of oil and an amsoil filter. The dealer calls me back and states that I have the wrong kind of oil, the truck takes 0w-20. I tell them that I know, and that I want to use 0w-30 because I tow. The dealer then tells me that the 0w-30 may cause a check engine light!!! I told her she was full of it and go ahead and change it.
Two hours later, they call me back and the truck is ready, but it is a quart low on oil! I hit the roof! After much deliberation about their intelligence, I speak with the tech, and he claims that the amsoil fiter is larger than the toyota filter.? When I check the oil, of course it is not a quart low, just a hair below the full line.

Anyway, I wanted to let anyone know who is on the fence about using 0w-20 or 0w-30 There is no check engine light that warns you have the wrong oil, and that the truck is VASTLY quieter and smoother with 0-30. I never liked all the clank clank and diesel sounds my truck made with the 20 weight oil. It is like a whole different beast (ie, no clanking) now that I switched to 30 weight. I will never put that 20 in the truck again! I don't care what the book says about 20 weight, I want my truck to last, and 30 is the way to go for me!! No noticeable drop in MPG either.:machinegunner:
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I bet they were scared they would blow up your engine or something, so they poured your 0w30 out, and put their 0w20 in your truck and called it a day :lol5:[/QUOTE]

I worried about that, but that is the biggest reason I posted. You can immediately tell there is a difference in 0w20 and 0w30. With the 20 the truck sounds like a trash can. With the 30, smooth and quite.




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Dang, lol thanks bad dad!!
See this is where I'm screwed! I got a lifetime warranty when I bought my truck, but the only stipulation is I have to have the service done by a Ase certified mechanic.
I really want that warranty!!!!


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I bought the truck from Jim Barkley Toyota in Asheville nc. Drove 5 hours there to get it. Loved the dealership. Got serviced at Peterson Toyota (idiots) and of course the only local dealer to me. The warranty comes with the sale, nothing added on. Engine, transmission and drive line 4x4 system.
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No just the oil changes and diff changes which I already did. The cabin filter is not part of the deal.
I want to keep the truck for a long time, when it comes my time for a new vehicle, my daughter will be 16! So you can see me needing to keep it a while.


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Trust me I was skeptical at first too. I was given a copy of the warranty when I bought the truck. No bs. Follow the Maintenance schedule. I can scan the doc and attach it later.


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I'm not even getting the work done from their dealership. I just chose to use Toyota so it would all be there in their computer, and I have a log of it online.
I can use jiffy lube if I want. They just say Ase certified mechanic.


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Lol she was the service manager!!


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Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever seen my dipstick at the full mark. It seems that the couple of "free" toyota care changes it was a little below the full mark then too. I guess I will start driving up to Fayetteville to the dealer there to get my next change done.

It floors me that the dealership doesn't know what oil numbers and weights are!
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Marketing ploy or evil ploy, it's $11.00 to get the oil changed and if I have to drive an hour to a different dealership I'll just make a day of it and suck it up. When my motor craps out I will be up there with all my documentation demanding a new one!!
Had the ripoff tires for life deal once too. Did the math on that one and it was a crock.


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I put the 0-30 in my wife's rav4. It calls for 0-20 and it always used oil. Now with the 30, no oil loss. My opinion is that 20 is just too light.


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All I can tell you is that with the 30, my truck runs and sounds better. No check engine light, no problems whatsoever. I will never put 20 back into my oil. I have a used oil analysis from the toyo 20 and will do one on my 30 but I am gonna run the 30 for ten thousand miles first!


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So, I ran 0w-30 thru my Tacoma for 10 years and 198,000 miles. Ran perfect and didn't burn a drop of oil the day I sold it. Guess the cold start up protection was negligible. Don't think it would have ran so good with 20 :dunno:
To each his own, but its 0w-30 for me.


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I don't know jack about oil. I am a musician by trade. I have had great results with 30. There is a thread that shows used oil analysis. I have one on my Toyota oil and plan on doing one with the 30. Thats as scientific as I can get. Lol. I do have a trained ear and the sound with the 30 is exactly what I expect from Toyota. The 20 sound like a poorly built Chevy. Too much metal clanking for my ear. I know that's not scientific, but I will post both my uoa when I get the miles on.


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The manual does state a higher viscosity can be run if towing or in hot climates, but its only one sentence and doesn't specify what kind. I will take a pic of it later. It's hidden in the manual.


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I have noticed no fuel economy change since changing my oil


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Did you mean 30 in the summer and 20 in the winter? That would make more sense. Both will be the same at startup. I like the 30 since I tow and would rather have a little extra protection over a .0025% mpg increase ;-)


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Oops, re-read you post, sorry you were towing in the winter. I think 30 would be your best bet, but I have no science to back up my biased option! Lol



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That's what I'm going to do with my truck. Others will disagree I'm sure, I have about 2 thousand more miles to go before my next oil analysis. Will have around 9,000 miles on amsoil 0w30 and several towing trips. Will let you know in about a month how that goes.


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