0w-20 vs 0w30

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Tyotayoda

Discussion Starter · Apr 16, 2013

This is not a motor oil question or review, just an experience. I took my truck to the dealer last saturday for them to change my oil (first mistake). I bought 2 gallons of amsoil ss 0w-30, knowing our truck takes 7.9quarts. 1 gallon equals 4 quarts, so 8 quarts of oil and an amsoil filter. The dealer calls me back and states that I have the wrong kind of oil, the truck takes 0w-20. I tell them that I know, and that I want to use 0w-30 because I tow. The dealer then tells me that the 0w-30 may cause a check engine light!!! I told her she was full of it and go ahead and change it.
Two hours later, they call me back and the truck is ready, but it is a quart low on oil! I hit the roof! After much deliberation about their intelligence, I speak with the tech, and he claims that the amsoil fiter is larger than the toyota filter.? When I check the oil, of course it is not a quart low, just a hair below the full line.

Anyway, I wanted to let anyone know who is on the fence about using 0w-20 or 0w-30 There is no check engine light that warns you have the wrong oil, and that the truck is VASTLY quieter and smoother with 0-30. I never liked all the clank clank and diesel sounds my truck made with the 20 weight oil. It is like a whole different beast (ie, no clanking) now that I switched to 30 weight. I will never put that 20 in the truck again! I don't care what the book says about 20 weight, I want my truck to last, and 30 is the way to go for me!! No noticeable drop in MPG either.:machinegunner:

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· #22 · Apr 17, 2013 (Edited)

They are like a Harley-Davidson dealer, they don't want you to use AMSOIL, AMSOIL saves motors, AMSOIL will cost the dealer lost revenue. It doesn't matter if it's a motorcycle, car or truck dealership, they make the most money on service & repairs.

Free Maintenance is a marketing ploy that forces the owner to go back to the dealership for oil changes. They hang out in the showrooms and look at the new cars while the service dept looks for something they can upsell to the customer. They have a vested interest in having you come back again and again and again. Think about it, how many want you to keep driving your truck? You are the only one; the dealers want to sell you a new one. All you are to the dealer in money in the bank.

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· #28 · Apr 25, 2013 (Edited)

Pas Bon said:
I disagree, Toyota has built a reputation of quality and reliability, I don't think they are conspiring to cause problems so they can make money on you off of repairs. That would be a pretty poor business model!! Others have tried and failed at miserably.

I am not referring to Toyota, I am referring to individual dealers. They have a vested interest in having you come back again and again and again. They make the most money on parts and service. Think about it, how many want you to keep driving your truck? You are the only one; the dealers want to sell you a new truck. All you are to the dealer is money in the bank.

I'll give you a for instance. Neighbor lady has a Rav4 about 3-4 yrs old now. She drives 100 miles to the dealer to get her oil changed because she fears warranty problems if she does not. She told me they told her that when she bought the car, salesman I presume did that. That is unethical of them to do that, coerce and intimidate her like that.

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