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IMG_3317.jpg Just got home last night from a 1000 mile jaunt from Oregon to Wyoming. 30' Grand Design 5er at 7800# with about 1100# pin weight. Truck handled it beautifully over mountain passes and down the interstate. Adding a set of helper springs this week 2000# Hellwig springs just to level it out a touch and help with a bit of stability but I have pulled a lot of loads over the years and the Tundra doesn't perform like a 1/2 ton...ever!
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Attachment 854896 Just got home last night from a 1000 mile jaunt from Oregon to Wyoming. 30' Grand Design 5er at 7800# with about 1100# pin weight. Truck handled it beautifully over mountain passes and down the interstate. Adding a set of helper springs this week 2000# Hellwig springs just to level it out a touch and help with a bit of stability but I have pulled a lot of loads over the years and the Tundra doesn't perform like a 1/2 ton...ever!


Congratulations on the trip, but Iíd rethink the hellwig helpers. I put them on my truck and kept them for a couple days then I took them off. Lifted the rear, were very noisy and didnít help level the truck.

I also tried sumo springs.

I went with airbags and they are the way to go.


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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I wanted to put bags on my truck but I had a B&W hitch installed and there isn’t room for the bags with that hitch setup on the frame.
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I wanted to put bags on my truck but I had a B&W hitch installed and there isn’t room for the bags with that hitch setup on the frame.
Do your the hitch components extend between the frame and springs? Do you have a picture of your setup? My airbags only take up the space between my springs and frame. This area would normally be open and clear to allow for cycling of the rear suspension. I'm curious how your B&W hitch would interfere with bags but not with help springs. Attached is a pic of my bags. They are airlift 5000 ultimates. I know most people go with Firestone but I got a good deal on the bags and compressor install. Plus I remove them when not towing.
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I wanted to put bags on my truck but I had a B&W hitch installed and there isnít room for the bags with that hitch setup on the frame.


I have the B&W as well. The bottom bolt for your hitch gets swapped for the airbag stud. Itís a PITA to install but itís do able.




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I have the B&W as well. The bottom bolt for your hitch gets swapped for the airbag stud. Itís a PITA to install but itís do able.




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Thanks for the info. I will probably give the springs a try since theyíll be here tomorrow. I do prefer the adjustability of the bags but if I get the desired look and performance for a fourth the cost why wouldnít I?


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Thanks for the info. I will probably give the springs a try since theyíll be here tomorrow. I do prefer the adjustability of the bags but if I get the desired look and performance for a fourth the cost why wouldnít I?


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Springs could sacrifice ride comfort unloaded much worse than bags, which can be wired down to a minimum.

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Springs could sacrifice ride comfort unloaded much worse than bags, which can be wired down to a minimum.


Update: Installed the helpers last Friday and hauled the fifth wheel down to the football game for the weekend, a little over 200 miles each way plus all the unhitched running around. The springs did exactly as intended giving just a bit more support and leveled the ride a bit. I wasnít looking for anything more out of them. Seems most noticeable when crossing uneven conditions while making a turn. No noise whatsoever and the unloaded ride is unchanged. To get the expected results for a fourth the cost of bags Iím gonna have to keep em for now. Thanks for all the input!


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