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Of all the searching around the forum, there seems to be a lot of missing information about specifics on Sumosprings on Tundras. Maybe they just aren't that popular here. I would like to see pics before and after with trailers, which model of spring you went with, i.e: 1000#, 1500#, or 2800#

Please don't try to talk me into air bags or Timbrens, etc. I use Ride Rite on 2 other of my company trucks and like the systems enough. I really would like to try a set of these on the 15' Tundra, as it tows 75% of the time. If I don't like them, I'll do something else eventually. I rarely keep my main company truck for more than 3 years, so I'm not installing air bags on it.

Unloaded 18' tandem axle car hauler=1800# empty, I occasionally haul up to 7000# on it. My camper is 26.7' long and has approximately 1000# of loaded tongue weight with equalizer hitch. Truck sags about 1-2 inches depending on load. I'd like to hear what you are towing with which Sumosprings and pictures are preferred.

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I don't know if this forum is dead or not, but of all the searching around the forum, there seems to be a lot of missing information about specifics on Sumosprings on Tundras. Maybe they just aren't that popular here.
I think that's it. They are not the more popular option.
From a quick glance, they seem to be nothing more than a foam bump stop.
For people towing/hauling 75% of the time, at 90% capacity, a new leaf pack is a more effective and practical mod.
If you want something that is easy to transfer/install because you are getting a new truck every 3 yrs, then maybe bump up to a 2500 and then no mods are needed.
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I think that's it. They are not the more popular option.
From a quick glance, they seem to be nothing more than a foam bump stop.
For people towing/hauling 75% of the time, at 90% capacity, a new leaf pack is a more effective and practical mod.
If you want something that is easy to transfer/install because you are getting a new truck every 3 yrs, then maybe bump up to a 2500 and then no mods are needed.
I have two 2500s now and this truck will out pull both and gets better gas mileage doing so, so that's not really an option. I put about 4-5k miles on it per year and don't want to complicate things while keeping the factory ride. I've used Sumos on Tacomas with good results in the past. I just really want to see which Sumos folks are using with their Tundras and how much they tow, etc. I may still upgrade later if I decide to keep the truck.
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I've peeked in many of the suspension/towing threads. I wanna say I've only seen the sumospring mentioned a few times.
Hopefully someone sees this and you get feedback.
I'm opting for a new leaf pack because I have a cap, 8' bed and there's always weight in it
Hope those work out for ya.
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I've peeked in many of the suspension/towing threads. I wanna say I've only seen the sumospring mentioned a few times.
Hopefully someone sees this and you get feedback.
I'm opting for a new leaf pack because I have a cap, 8' bed and there's always weight in it
Hope those work out for ya.
I just want to try them. As cheap as they are, I figured I'd give it a go. I built a tonneau cover for it, have a loaded tool box, and occasionally have the bed full too. The headlight tilt adjuster is kinda cool too. Never had a truck with that on and it has made a difference so far as well when towing or hauling loads at night. Wish my GMCs had that!
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I don't know if this forum is dead or not, but of all the searching around the forum, there seems to be a lot of missing information about specifics on Sumosprings on Tundras. Maybe they just aren't that popular here. I would like to see pics before and after with trailers, which model of spring you went with, i.e: 1000#, 1500#, or 2800#

Please don't try to talk me into air bags or Timbrens, etc. I use Ride Rite on 2 other of my company trucks and like the systems enough. I really would like to try a set of these on the 15' Tundra, as it tows 75% of the time. If I don't like them, I'll do something else eventually. I rarely keep my main company truck for more than 3 years, so I'm not installing air bags on it.

Unloaded 18' tandem axle car hauler=1800# empty, I occasionally haul up to 7000# on it. My camper is 26.7' long and has approximately 1000# of loaded tongue weight with equalizer hitch. Truck sags about 1-2 inches depending on load. I'd like to hear what you are towing with which Sumosprings and pictures are preferred.

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I don't know if this forum is dead or not, but of all the searching around the forum, there seems to be a lot of missing information about specifics on Sumosprings on Tundras. Maybe they just aren't that popular here. I would like to see pics before and after with trailers, which model of spring you went with, i.e: 1000#, 1500#, or 2800#

Please don't try to talk me into air bags or Timbrens, etc. I use Ride Rite on 2 other of my company trucks and like the systems enough. I really would like to try a set of these on the 15' Tundra, as it tows 75% of the time. If I don't like them, I'll do something else eventually. I rarely keep my main company truck for more than 3 years, so I'm not installing air bags on it.

Unloaded 18' tandem axle car hauler=1800# empty, I occasionally haul up to 7000# on it. My camper is 26.7' long and has approximately 1000# of loaded tongue weight with equalizer hitch. Truck sags about 1-2 inches depending on load. I'd like to hear what you are towing with which Sumosprings and pictures are preferred.

Thanks to all who reply.
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I'm actually looking at those also.
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I just want to try them. As cheap as they are, I figured I'd give it a go. I built a tonneau cover for it, have a loaded tool box, and occasionally have the bed full too. The headlight tilt adjuster is kinda cool too. Never had a truck with that on and it has made a difference so far as well when towing or hauling loads at night. Wish my GMCs had that!
no shit, you built your own tonneau cover? post some pics! i've been looking for inspiration but havent seen anything i like yet.
was thinking about using some plywood and tarps but idk how to attach it to the bed. was thinking about some hinges, i could just self tap them right to the bed...


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In my build thread I have detailed my experience with the 1,000lb sumo springs (their suggestion according to my load), hellwig progressive helpers, and firestone airbags.

Basically, sumos didnít help with the squat but felt more controlled. They are actually installed on my buddyís 98 gmc right now with the spacers I made to get them to engage sooner. They made his worn out springs ride and support loads better.

Hellwig helpers did nothing but lift the rear when unloaded, didnít help with the squat and made tons of squeaks and noises.

Firestone airbags, airlift wireless one compressor and daystar cradles are the way to go. In every aspect.

I was 90% against having airbags until I tried them. Now they will be on every truck I buy in the future.

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no shit, you built your own tonneau cover? post some pics! i've been looking for inspiration but havent seen anything i like yet.
was thinking about using some plywood and tarps but idk how to attach it to the bed. was thinking about some hinges, i could just self tap them right to the bed...

No you moron, don't use screws. Everyone knows that you use bungee cords to attach home made covers.


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In my build thread I have detailed my experience with the 1,000lb sumo springs (their suggestion according to my load), hellwig progressive helpers, and firestone airbags.

Basically, sumos didnít help with the squat but felt more controlled. They are actually installed on my buddyís 98 gmc right now with the spacers I made to get them to engage sooner. They made his worn out springs ride and support loads better.

Hellwig helpers did nothing but lift the rear when unloaded, didnít help with the squat and made tons of squeaks and noises.

Firestone airbags, airlift wireless one compressor and daystar cradles are the way to go. In every aspect.

I was 90% against having airbags until I tried them. Now they will be on every truck I buy in the future.

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I actually did find some info in your build thread this morning. I do have air bags on the other two trucks I own. We use them quite frequently and have never had a failure. Firestone Ride Rite with compressors, both trucks.
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