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Leveling kit for High mileage tundra

2013 tundra 4x4

Trying to decide what is the best option. Would like maybe 2.5-3” in front and then add maybe an 1” or 2 to the rear.

Will occasionally be towing a boat, so would like to keep rear from squatting to much if possible

Have over 200k on the truck so I am guessing some of the front end components might need attention anyway and I am also assuming shocks/struts could use replacing

Based on reading and searching the forum I was thinking a new set of Bilstein 5100’s might be the best options . There’s two different options with these though and wondering if I should go ahead and spend more and get the complete assembly? Also do I need to look in the upper control arms or should I try the 5100 1st and see how it goes? I assume this will be a better option based on my mileage than the cheaper spacers that can be added on top of the assembly?

My goal is to add slightly larger tires in a highway a/t tread style. Still wanting a smooth ride not looking for any oversize Mudd tread
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I installed Billstein 5100's all around, front at top setting, with a 1" Toytec shackle in the rear. Truck had 145k when I did this so be prepared to struggle with the shackle bushings but it's well worth the effort!
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How large of a tire are you wanting to go? Definitely many options for you but since your truck does have high mileage I would replace the shocks like you stated. If you'd like give me a call at toyteclifts! 303-255-4959 my ext is 113!
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Was thinking 275/65/20 - open to suggestions though
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2013 tundra 4x4

Trying to decide what is the best option. Would like maybe 2.5-3” in front and then add maybe an 1” or 2 to the rear.

Will occasionally be towing a boat, so would like to keep rear from squatting to much if possible

Have over 200k on the truck so I am guessing some of the front end components might need attention anyway and I am also assuming shocks/struts could use replacing

Based on reading and searching the forum I was thinking a new set of Bilstein 5100’s might be the best options . There’s two different options with these though and wondering if I should go ahead and spend more and get the complete assembly? Also do I need to look in the upper control arms or should I try the 5100 1st and see how it goes? I assume this will be a better option based on my mileage than the cheaper spacers that can be added on top of the assembly?

My goal is to add slightly larger tires in a highway a/t tread style. Still wanting a smooth ride not looking for any oversize Mudd tread


5100’s are a great option. Also factor in a diff drop and if you lift the rear with shackles, a carrier bearing drop. Both are very inexpensive but are critical to the longevity of your drivetrain.

Check your upper ball joints. If they are worn go ahead and swap UCA. If you get Tuff Country arms, swap the ball joint to a moog. I just had one fail at 50k miles so I swapped in moogs over the weekend.

I had the 275/65r20 tires last time and I had 285/60r20 installed last week. I think they are a better fit to the truck.


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Do you think I need front springs also. - or just the shocks for now?
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I looked into spring replacement as well figuring if it had to be done then I may do it all at once and was told by separate mechanics that the springs should be fine unless there is an obvious issue. With that being said each truck is a case by case determination, my truck has been driven on pavement 98% of the time.
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Thanks for all the info. Got my 5100’s ordered. Not going to worry about the springs for now. I think they we fine

Question about the tires- I was looking at some 285/60/20 but also noticed that a 275/65/20 might be a good option also and seemed a little less expensive and a little bit taller

Any suggestions.
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Mrmachinist - Just saw your comment about the tires and the 285/60 being the better fit. Let me know if you have any more insight on these 2 options

Anguyen- thanks for the offer! will give you a call to discuss
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Mrmachinist - Just saw your comment about the tires and the 285/60 being the better fit. Let me know if you have any more insight on these 2 options

Anguyen- thanks for the offer! will give you a call to discuss


I had 275/65r20 cooper ST Maxx tires for 50,000 miles. I got that size because they were taller and cheaper.

I just had 285/60r20 Nitto Ridge Grapplers installed and I think the additional width makes a huge difference in the look. The height is 1/2”shorter but honestly I don’t even notice it.

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ok, so here's where I am at - let me know if I am missing anything.

-got a full set of 5100's and planning to use highest setting on front. Ordered a front diff drop.

(will inspect front ball joints, but was not planning on getting new UCA unless it is recommended) - looked like I am fine with stock for this amount of lift??

or is it stupid to not replace the UCA's while everything is apart and prior to getting alignment?


-1" shackles for the rear (DO i need carrier drop with this small of lift?)

-285/60 continental terraincontact ATtires

will get an alignment after tire and lift install

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Sounds good, I have the same setup. I bought the carrier drop but haven’t installed them as I haven’t noticed any shudder when accelerating.
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You may need UCA at 2.5” lift. It’s a crapshoot at that height if you can get enough caster in your alignment. I ended up not getting them at first but I had to swap them out after that first alignment


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I am assuming it will be a lot easier to swap out control arms now while doing the lift

Wondering if I should just go ahead and get them to install while everything is apart
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You’ll more than likely need to change out your ball joints any way. I’d suggest UCA’s. I have the tuff country’s and am happy so far.


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