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Lol thanks. Intelligent group here.

I'm actually not going to run those cheap ass toytec shackles. I have coachbuilders. But I didn't want to hurt low life's feelings.

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Lol thanks. Intelligent group here.

I'm actually not going to run those cheap ass toytec shackles. I have coachbuilders. But I didn't want to hurt low life's feelings.


I’ll top that. I’m running some super high end eBay shackles.....


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I'm actually not going to run those cheap ass toytec shackles. I have coachbuilders. But I didn't want to hurt low life's feelings.
He actually has no feelings so it's all good

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Alright if we are going to talk about shackles let's do it. I need something around a half inch for my rear to level out. The 1" is a touch too high and nothing in the rear puts my front end a little bit higher. Any ideas?

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Alright if we are going to talk about shackles let's do it. I need something around a half inch for my rear to level out. The 1" is a touch too high and nothing in the rear puts my front end a little bit higher. Any ideas?

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+1 shackles give 1/2”-5/8” of lift. Or I believe some 1/4” and 1/2” shims are available to tweak the rear height but obviously they are not optimal as the still increase the leverage on the springs and it causes more axle wrap.

I was behind a truck yesterday who had some fabricated lift blocks in the rear. Probably 6” high 1/4” plate welded together in a box with no corner gussets. It was crazy to see how much that rear end rotated when he took off from a red light. Probably 20-30 degrees. That is obviously an extreme example but blocks are just not a good idea.


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Alright if we are going to talk about shackles let's do it. I need something around a half inch for my rear to level out. The 1" is a touch too high and nothing in the rear puts my front end a little bit higher. Any ideas?
I knew you'd give in and discuss shackles.
Sorry to hear your heavy duty expensive CBs didn't work out for you.
Did you install them, or did you assume +1 meant 1"?

When I did a 2.5" lift to the front, the stock shackles made it damn near perfectly level.



I kinda liked it better level, but it throwing the nanny systems off.
There is a fix to make the truck think it still has rake, but I just put the sh1tty cheap Toytec shackles on since I bought them in a garage sale for $10.
The 1.5" setting was too high.




My super cheap, paper thin, made of tinfoil Toytec shackles on the lower setting gave it a little less the stock rake.
Rear sits about an 1.5" higher than the front.



When it was new and all stock, the rear sat 2.25" higher than the front.



The 5160 rear shocks I have run fine.
The whole 6112/5160 (more the 6112s I think) made the ride much stiffer, almost too much for me.
It has settled down over the last 3 years.
But I didn't like the stock black shocks at all, made me feel like I was in a boat over rough water.
My 2005 Tundra had a much better stock ride than my stock 2014 did..


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I knew you'd give in and discuss shackles.

Sorry to hear your heavy duty expensive CBs didn't work out for you.

Did you install them, or did you assume +1 meant 1"?



When I did a 2.5" lift to the front, the stock shackles made it damn near perfectly level.







I kinda liked it better level, but it throwing the nanny systems off.

There is a fix to make the truck think it still has rake, but I just put the sh1tty cheap Toytec shackles on since I bought them in a garage sale for $10.

The 1.5" setting was too high.









My super cheap, paper thin, made of tinfoil Toytec shackles on the lower setting gave it a little less the stock rake.

Rear sits about an 1.5" higher than the front.







When it was new and all stock, the rear sat 2.25" higher than the front.







The 5160 rear shocks I have run fine.

The whole 6112/5160 (more the 6112s I think) made the ride much stiffer, almost too much for me.

It has settled down over the last 3 years.

But I didn't like the stock black shocks at all, made me feel like I was in a boat over rough water.

My 2005 Tundra had a much better stock ride than my stock 2014 did..





And no, puncher of lungs, you can't hurt my feelings...

Good luck Bro..
No never did install the shackles, I really need a 1/2" lift.

I've actuator read that some rear shocks will actually lift the rear a touch. Nothing crazy but some??? Who knows

I'm a bow hunter, which is where the puncher of lungs name came from.

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No never did install the shackles, I really need a 1/2" lift.

I've actuator read that some rear shocks will actually lift the rear a touch. Nothing crazy but some??? Who knows

I'm a bow hunter, which is where the puncher of lungs name came from.
As @mrmachinist stated a CB+1 give 1/2”-5/8” of lift.
The website reads .625 which is a c-hair over what you're looking for.

https://shop-coachbuilder.myshopify....of-actual-lift

Toytec will give a an inch minimum.

If you bought CB +1 you might try installing them and see what you get.
Not too hard to swap shackles, unfortunately I've done it twice.

https://www.tundratalk.net/forums/tu...les-today.html

If it doesn't work out you could probably sell them on the forum.
Hell, I might buy them......

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As @mrmachinist stated a CB+1 give 1/2”-5/8” of lift.

The website reads .625 which is a c-hair over what you're looking for.



https://shop-coachbuilder.myshopify....of-actual-lift



Toytec will give a an inch minimum.



If you bought CB +1 you might try installing them and see what you get.

Not too hard to swap shackles, unfortunately I've done it twice.



https://www.tundratalk.net/forums/tu...les-today.html



If it doesn't work out you could probably sell them on the forum.

Hell, I might buy them......
I thought I have read they have a touch over the stated .625". I'll try them out.

Quick question, if I got an alignment done before will a shackle /block change require another alignment?

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I thought I have read they have a touch over the stated .625". I'll try them out.

Quick question, if I got an alignment done before will a shackle /block change require another alignment?
I don't think changes to the rear would require and alignment.
Perhaps someone smarter than I (it wouldn't take much) will comment on that..

I need to get off this computer and do something.

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