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Best/easiest leveling option (for a brand new Tundra owner)

I'm brand new to the Tundra community and especially Tundratalk so bear with me!

I just bought a 2018 Tundra limited double cab and I'm looking into different leveling options. I'm definitely wanting to go with either the Toytec/Eibach Complete Front Coilovers or the Bilstein 5100s. I've been reading plenty of forums on here but which do you guys think would be an easier install and the best quality? Do I also need to buy new UCAs with the 3 inch level?

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Easier to install would be the complete coilovers if they come assembled. You shouldnt need UCAs if you only use them without any shims / spacers etc

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keep in mind just leveling the front tends to be 2-2.5" on the fronts only, while a 3" front lift is usually paired with a 1" rear lift

the 5100s on top setting will be about 2.5" up front, not sure about the toytec coils

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Theres not much difference in ease of install between coilovers and the 5100's honestly.

What you want to spend (5100's are excellent for the price, coilovers cost more) and how you plan to use it (mall crawler or serious off reading) should dictate which way you go.

I went with 5100's and rear CB shackles, 295/70's on stock TRD wheels and my truck looks great, rides and drives fantastic on the street and works well for me off road (I'm not rock crawling or jumping the truck, but it does tons of beach driving, muddy farm roads and muddy/rocky/rutted hunting trails no problem).

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Ease of install would be coilovers IMO. That's just because I'm not gonna use an autozone spring compressor for 5100s. But I went with 5100s and CB shims on each side to get 3" in the front. Did toytec shackles in the rear for 1.5" there
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Ease of install would be coilovers IMO. That's just because I'm not gonna use an autozone spring compressor for 5100s. But I went with 5100s and CB shims on each side to get 3" in the front. Did toytec shackles in the rear for 1.5" there
Did you need UCAs with the shims? I'm leaning more towards doing a 1" in the back based off of what everyone is saying!
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Fttam, do you have any pics of your setup??? Here's my stock truck. went with the double cab because I saved $4,000. Loving it so far!
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3" shouldnt need UCA's over 3" yes. I got a within spec alignment with 5100's and 2 CB shims on the top setting. But its barely in spec. I'm adding UCAs to try and improve it

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I Installed Bilstein 6112s on my '18. Highest setting gave a perfect 2.5" level, and the spring/2.5" damper are perfectly matched for a great on/off road compromise ride. I've bought may last set of Toytechs after experiencing poor product and service. I received the wrong spring rate for my '04 Tacoma, so the springs were bowing in, nearly rubbing the shock body, as well as riding really harsh to to the excessive preload needed to set a 2.5" lift. The owner was not only clueless (or pretended to be), but unpleasant to deal with. Finally had to sort it out myself. If that weren't enough, Toytech has since stopped using Bilstein dampers, and now uses a no doubt cheaper and less reliable in house "Boss" branded damper. Given the decades of excellent trouble free performance I've had with Bilstein suspension on both on and off-road trucks and motorcycles, there's absolutely no reason to go Toytect since Bilstein is now offering their own coilovers. You can even find some vendors that will assemble the COs for you if you prefer not to use a spring compressor. I installed these COs myself, as always. Trying to shortcut by not un-bolting the lower ball joint and sway bar frame brackets/end links was a waste of time for me.

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Ease of install would be coilovers IMO. That's just because I'm not gonna use an autozone spring compressor for 5100s. But I went with 5100s and CB shims on each side to get 3" in the front. Did toytec shackles in the rear for 1.5" there
Did you need UCAs with the shims? I'm leaning more towards doing a 1" in the back based off of what everyone is saying!
Stock uca still. And I did 1.5" because a lot of people say the tundra likes a certain amount of rake to keep the computer happy. Idk if it does or doesn't, but I like the way it turned out either way
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I Installed Bilstein 6112s on my '18. Highest setting gave a perfect 2.5" level, and the spring/2.5" damper are perfectly matched for a great on/off road compromise ride. I've bought may last set of Toytechs after experiencing poor product and service. I received the wrong spring rate for my '04 Tacoma, so the springs were bowing in, nearly rubbing the shock body, as well as riding really harsh to to the excessive preload needed to set a 2.5" lift. The owner was not only clueless (or pretended to be), but unpleasant to deal with. Finally had to sort it out myself. If that weren't enough, Toytech has since stopped using Bilstein dampers, and now uses a no doubt cheaper and less reliable in house "Boss" branded damper. Given the decades of excellent trouble free performance I've had with Bilstein suspension on both on and off-road trucks and motorcycles, there's absolutely no reason to go Toytect since Bilstein is now offering their own coilovers. You can even find some vendors that will assemble the COs for you if you prefer not to use a spring compressor. I installed these COs myself, as always. Trying to shortcut by not un-bolting the lower ball joint and sway bar frame brackets/end links was a waste of time for me.
Thanks phm, I think I'm going to go with the 6112s in the front and 5100s in the back. Based off what everyone's said they are the better of the two plus the 6112s already come with coils. Tundratalk is the titties, its great having all you guys with Tundra experience for questions and advice!
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Have any of you guys ordered parts from Wheeler's Off Road?
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Consider the Firestone Ride-Rite Kit. levels, increases carrying capacity, and best of all makes the truck ride like a luxury car when empty.
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If you tow, be careful not to completely level the truck. If you do the tongue weight can alter your steering control.


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Have any of you guys ordered parts from Wheeler's Off Road?
I purchased my 6112s pre-assembled from Wheeler’s and had zero issues. They even throw in a little goodie bag of candy!

As far as suspension setup, I went 6112 on the top setting and Toytec shackles at 1”. Overall very happy with the setup for a daily driver. I probably could’ve had slightly better system but at a much higher cost, ie full blow coil overs like king or fox.

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