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Iíve lost faith in The Big 3, and going Tundra

This is a helluva sweet forum. Spend enough time on Chevy, Dodge, or Ford forums, and the content/nature of posts from this forum will restore ones faith in humanity.
I know my position (negotiating room) when buying from the big 3. As you guys know, its pretty drastic. However, Ive never bought Tundra and know things will be different than buying from the B-3.
I would like to bypass as much sh*t as possible with y'alls help so I have some idea of where I stand. Im in Texas and will be paying cash for a new '19 sr5 4x4 CrewMax with the option 5k package of blackout off-road and other lipstick. MSRP on this badboy sits right at 49.3K. I know its a bit of a loaded question, but where should my expectations be? 45k? 40k? I don't have the desire to go back and forth with every internet salesman in quest for the lowest price humanly possible, but I would like to have an idea of where I stand before engaging.
***and thanks to you guys, I made sure it has the 38 gallon tank.
Any guidance is much appreciated and I look forward to being adopted into the fam.
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This is just what worked for me. I went to Edmunds and looked at their true value price. This is my absolute, I have to have it, top dollar I'll spend. Then I requested a price from multiple dealers using the Edmunds site. I took the lowest one and used it to haggle. Cut down on a lot of the b.s. Turns out the lowest quote was where I bought from. Had three other dealers tell my they couldn't match it and that the other place couldn't sell that cheap either. I was told that if I went there something would change and they couldn't sell it that cheap. Well partially correct. Got them to drop the price another $300 since they didn't have the bed cover I wanted.
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Would suggest you look in the "purchase" section of this forum....
https://www.tundratalk.net/forums/tu...centives-info/

Also, you can use truecar.com to gather data on actual purchase prices in your area but I have never gone through them to buy a vehicle.

FYI, I purchased my 2017 Tundra Limited 5.7L 4WD DC in Central Ohio in August 2017 for $42,003 before tax/title and incentives which included a $250 doc fee. With 7% sales tax ($2940), title/registration ($39) and a $1,250 deduct for Toyota incentive offered at that time, it was $43,732 out the door vs MSRP of $45,533. I went through the Costco car buying program and paid cash.

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This is a helluva sweet forum. Spend enough time on Chevy, Dodge, or Ford forums, and the content/nature of posts from this forum will restore ones faith in humanity.
I know my position (negotiating room) when buying from the big 3. As you guys know, its pretty drastic. However, Ive never bought Tundra and know things will be different than buying from the B-3.
I would like to bypass as much sh*t as possible with y'alls help so I have some idea of where I stand. Im in Texas and will be paying cash for a new '19 sr5 4x4 CrewMax with the option 5k package of blackout off-road and other lipstick. MSRP on this badboy sits right at 49.3K. I know its a bit of a loaded question, but where should my expectations be? 45k? 40k? I don't have the desire to go back and forth with every internet salesman in quest for the lowest price humanly possible, but I would like to have an idea of where I stand before engaging.
***and thanks to you guys, I made sure it has the 38 gallon tank.
Any guidance is much appreciated and I look forward to being adopted into the fam.
49K seems like a ton for a SR5 truck.


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Lowest price is usually going to come from emailing the dealer's internet sale rep. They do not get a commission which saves the dealership money. I contact one a month ago about a 2019 4WD Limited truck and the fellow came back with an offer that was $5,000 off the MSRP right from the start.

Best deals I have gotten have been the last weekend of the month or better yet the end of a sales quarter when the dealers want high unit sales to qualify for "rebates" or discounts from the factory for every vehicle purchased during that period.

Poor crash ratings and other out of date aspects for the Tundra, which has not fundamentally changed since 2007, has kept me from buying the 2019 Tundra. I am waiting to see what is provided with the 2020 trucks. I waited for 3 years to replace my SUV and I am constantly reminded when driving it that is was worth the wait to get the 2018 model which was greatly improved in nearly all respects over its predecessors and its competitors products.
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I was unaware that the 07-19 Tundra did poorly in crash tests.
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I was unaware that the 07-19 Tundra did poorly in crash tests.
they didnt,

its just the newest type test on the new trucks, that did poorly.


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Shop internet pricing from your local dealers. Usually, one will at least have a very good internet price on a particular truck. Use that truck as a means to get a good price on the one you're looking for. Hopefully that truck might just be what you're looking for.

I can tell you. One of my local dealers give VERY GOOD pricing on those who start at their website. Here is a good example of one similar to what you're looking at. Heck... I'd buy it if I were looking at a new truck...

https://www.moderntoyota.com/new/Toy...748f239932.htm

Here is one I believe is almost identical to what you're looking for...

https://www.moderntoyota.com/new/Toy...83508d91ea.htm

Its $44.500

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In my opinion, the crash tests work against heavier vehicles, and do so on purpose. A 2000 pound car into a barrier gets an "excellent" rating. A 5,700 pound truck runs into a barrier and gets a "average" rating. But I GUARANTEE you that running that "excellent" light vehicle into the heavy truck will bode much worse for the car occupant than the truck occupant. So the crash tests are biased. Part of the agenda is getting us into cars that get better mileage. Most car wrecks are NOT into fixed concrete barriers, right? Crash test are more valid comparing vehicles of equal weight. From an old insurance guy.
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Typically about 5k off is about all you can get. Typically. Now the right time of the year, when the new models are coming out, and there may be more wiggle room.

Coming from the big 3, to a Toyota, you will definitely enjoy more residual/resale value. Example, I paid 38k otd (6% Mi sales tax, title, reg etc) for my 2010 Rock Warrior Cm. in aug of 2010. In dec of 2016 I got 25k on trade, with another 1k off on my 17 Platinum.


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I say wait until end of year sale to get those 2019 off the lot. Save $$$$ below msrp. I’ve seen them over $5K. Usually starts Sept ish.
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I meant over $5K off MSRP.
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