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No matter "What" engine they (Toyota) drops in the next gen Tundra, if the towing ( 9900 lbs) and hitch tongue capacity (980 lbs.) don't get raised to the area of the "Big 3" I'll have to start looking at one of those. I have test drove a F-250 two months ago. Yes, I'm brand loyal, But I need a truck to tow my RV trailer with just a little more capacity.

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I don't get it, are you expecting them to raise the tundra's numbers to that of a 3/4 ton?
As far as I know all half ton capacities are comparable.
Another thing to keep in mind is Toyota tends to be conservative with what they say their truck can do. While other brands tend to find tricky and even dishonest ways to advertise their products and exaggerate their capabilities.
Chevy is probably the worst. But they are all guilty of being better at advertising than actually building a machine.
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And I am not brand loyal. I just call it like I see it.
If someone builds a better half ton than Toyota for a reasonable price, I'm on it.
Still waiting.
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Careful spec-ing out F-250's and the like, as HD trucks now with Crew Cabs, 4x4, heavy engines, etc etc, don't get much more payload over a half ton truck. I've seen HD's in the low 1,100 or 1,200 lbs for payload, so just watch out.

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This is true.
Going from the RAM 2500 longhorn to limited, you lose 330lbs of payload.
Same truck, just an extra 300+ pounds of useless princess crap.
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I don't get it, are you expecting them to raise the tundra's numbers to that of a 3/4 ton?
As far as I know all half ton capacities are comparable.
No, not really. The big 3 are all in the 11,000 to 12,000+ range on towing. ( We know the Tundra are 9500 - 10,300 ) As far as hitch weight capacity, the big 3 are in the 1200 lbs range. The Tundra is 980 lbs. Bed Payload the big 3 are all 250 to 500 lbs more than the current Tundra.

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Then I guess Toyota should raise their numbers.
It's easy, just need an eraser and sharp pencil.
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No, not really. The big 3 are all in the 11,000 to 12,000+ range on towing. ( We know the Tundra are 9500 - 10,300 ) As far as hitch weight capacity, the big 3 are in the 1200 lbs range. The Tundra is 980 lbs. Bed Payload the big 3 are all 250 to 500 lbs more than the current Tundra.
That's not enough of a difference to go to the dark side. If your going to the dark side a 1 ton is the only way to go. 3/4 trucks are worthless. Not sure why they still make them.
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Everyone's needs are different. Some use their 1/2 ton's simply as "eye candy" and will never tow anything with it. Others use it for business (landscaper's, contractors...) while others use them to haul stuff in the bed for personal use and to tow their RV or trailer for quads.

Myself it's used for #1 towing my RV, #2 buying stuff to resell on Marketplace and #3 hauling mulch / firewood and last, helping people move.

Now with that said, #2 which I appreciate the Tundra's "tight" turning radius vs. the Ford 250's. Big difference between the two. Ride quality...again there is a somewhat big difference between 1/2 tons and the one ton's. I do 5-10 "community yard sales a year. I have to get into a lot of tight parking situations. Not going to happen with a bulky 3/4 ton.

For me personally I know I will never purchase a RV trailer longer than what I have now (28' 8") for the reason we do 90% of our camping in state, US Forest Service and national parks where some of the roads into the areas are iffy at best. Even only being 28' it is a very heavy 28' trailer. "Cheap" RV trailers in this length can be 1,500 to 2k lighter. It has a full suspension with 4 Monroe shocks (MorRyde 3000 suspension). I'm 6600 dry and 7800 to 8000 lbs loaded. So i'm at that 80% of my Tundra's 9900 lb towing limit.

Here something to chew at: saw this last night on YT (( 18,000 lb. towing for the next gen Tundra's ))


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Just like the big 3 towing claims, 18k capacity is useless if your suspension and brakes can't handle it.
So, did they beef everything up to that of a 1 ton? If so, what did that do to ride quality?
And is it still considerided a half ton?
I'm curious to see how they pulled this off and what the real world numbers will actually end up being.
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Also, what will the payload and tongue weight be rated for and will it come with E rated tires from the factory?
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Just like the big 3 towing claims, 18k capacity is useless if your suspension and brakes can't handle it.
So, did they beef everything up to that of a 1 ton? If so, what did that do to ride quality?
And is it still considerided a half ton?
I'm curious to see how they pulled this off and what the real world numbers will actually end up being.

They didn't. That dude is smoking crack if he believes that bullshit.


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