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All BS aside. All money aside. All maintenance concerns aside. I'd rather have 4 wheel drive and only use it 1 day out of 365 all day long. That's a personal preference and nothing more. Probably a good idea to use your geographical location and its weather conditions to aid in your decision making process.
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I Agree... Location and Use is Everything... I live in Middle GA and bought a New 2003 Limited Stepside w/4WD... During 5-Years of Ownership, I Never Engaged the 4WD... To Be Honest, I Forgot It Was There... It Didn't Dawn On Me That I Never Turned 4WD On Until The Night I Traded It In For A New 2008 CM Limited 2WD... To This Day, I have No Idea What An Engaged 4WD Vehicle Drives or Feels Like... So All You 4x4 Owners Can Feel Fully Justified Adding My Name To The 4x4 Tundra "Hall of Shame!"

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Living in Eastern Pennsylvania we get varying amounts of snow. Depending on the area, some roads are plowed/salted well and others are not touched AT ALL. In the last month I have used my 4WD 5-6 times for most if not all the entire trip to/from work. In some cases the snowfall was not all that deep but the roads were packed down snow/ice. On a few trips I used S-Mode quite often to go down some rather large snow/ice covered hills I had to use.

During the Spring/Summer/Fall I have used my 4WD any number of times at car show trailer parking areas. Wet grass and even the slightest grade makes 4WD a MUST when towing a loaded, enclosed car trailer.

Like others have said 2WD or 4WD comes down to one's needs and location.

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Like some have said, where you live or what you do is critical. I live in NW Minnesota. Use the 4wd often for about 6 months of the year. Having a rwd truck is much different than a fwd vehicle. I use 4x4 just to get going at intersections. Having said that, the wife has a Sienna that does remarkably well in the snow. She just can't plow with it :-)
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People keep commenting about less maintenance with 2 wheel drive but what does that mean? Nowadays the only real maintenance is greasing driveshafts (depending on model vehicle) and checking the u joints. Theres not much more maintenance than a 2 wheel drive vehicle. I've had trucks my entire life and I've had 4x4 on all of them. I watched a buddy of mine with a 2 wheel drive truck get stuck in a dirt parking lot at a concert, same lot a bunch of cars and other vehicles were parked in, he just managed to get the soft spot and because it was 2 wheel drive he couldnt get out. Much rather have 4x4 and not need it than not have it and need it. Idk why they even make 2 wheel drive trucks to be honest. Maintenance is literally turning 4x4 on like once every few months and checking to make sure the u joints aren't loose. Seems easy to me
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With a 4WD, you have transfer case fluids, front differential gear oil, driveshaft, and half-shafts to the wheels with CV joints with all the electronics and servo mechanisms. Overtime thats a bunch more maintenance and repair over a 2WD. I wouldn't own a truck as a daily driver without 4WD...

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People keep commenting about less maintenance with 2 wheel drive but what does that mean? Nowadays the only real maintenance is greasing driveshafts (depending on model vehicle) and checking the u joints. Theres not much more maintenance than a 2 wheel drive vehicle. I've had trucks my entire life and I've had 4x4 on all of them. I watched a buddy of mine with a 2 wheel drive truck get stuck in a dirt parking lot at a concert, same lot a bunch of cars and other vehicles were parked in, he just managed to get the soft spot and because it was 2 wheel drive he couldnt get out. Much rather have 4x4 and not need it than not have it and need it. Idk why they even make 2 wheel drive trucks to be honest. Maintenance is literally turning 4x4 on like once every few months and checking to make sure the u joints aren't loose. Seems easy to me

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Resell is better on 4wd. Especially if you plan on keep one 10 years or more. Check out most any make and model of truck and you will see a huge difference in value. 4wd hold their value much better.

Front wheel drive is fine with 2wd. Rear wheel.... nope.
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Idiot drivers can get FWD, RWD, 4WD, and AWD vehicles stuck with relative ease.

Experienced drivers, not so much.
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I agree that 4WD is the best option for areas that get snow, but one factor I didn’t see mentioned so far is what I consider to be the main argument for 2WD: towing capacity.

2WD gets a boost in towing and hauling capacity based on the fact that it doesn’t have to haul around a transfer case, extra differential and driveshaft, to the tune of like 400 pounds hauling and something like two thousand pound towing

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The upfront costs vs being stuck, or towed balance out.

Maintenance isn't much unless you do anything stupid causing repair.

Front diff and T-case fluid, which one poster here has said you never have to change, so no maintenance, lol.
How much does a tow cost where you live? Usually the 4x4 adds a couple grand to the cost, you must call a helicopter when you get stuck.
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How much does a tow cost where you live? Usually the 4x4 adds a couple grand to the cost, you must call a helicopter when you get stuck.
A helicopter? Really?!?

My last tow was in 1998, it cost me $350 when my Mustang blew the clutch self adjuster gears.

I know people who have had trucks or equipment stuck and their bills were over 1k...

Obviously you didn't read, we were talking about maintenance. I did say up front cost, but 4x4 will bring in more residual value down the road...That is a negligible amount if you get it back, or most of it. Fluid is cheap. In 15 years of owning 4x4's, my total 4wd maintenance costs are maybe $200-$300 in fluids... I have never been stuck.


The dollars isn't the only thing. If you get stuck because it is snowy, you have kids and wife screaming at you... Or even if you have take out food that you now have to eat cold after you wait an hour for a tow truck. Money is money, time is priceless. Plus when your buddies give you shit for not buying a 4x4, say you might as well have bought a prius... Well, that's just funny.


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Like everyone else has said. It is a matter of personal preference and where you live. I tow my boats, RV and live where the snow and ice get bad at times. I don't use the 4x4 option often, but when I do I need it. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it in my opinion.


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I don't use the 4x4 option often, but when I do I need it. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it in my opinion.
That sums it up. I got by in shitty Buffalo NY for 25 yrs with 2wd and mostly Rwd. But having the option of 4wd in tough situations sure makes life easier. In my opinion, the traction control makes navigating the snow and ice easier. The 4wd has a bigger impact getting traction in the mud. I will drive a 2wd in the snow no problem. I would feel less confident in a few inches of sloppy mud with 2wd.
At the end of the day, the right tires are far more important than any other factor. Good snow tires are far more effective than M/T or A/T in snow, even if they have the silly "snowflake rating". So, you can get by with 2wd and actual snow tires just fine. Just have to change them out for summer.

Around here, the average flatbed tow is currently $75 + $4 p/mile.
Not sure what it is to pull you out of a ditch or unwrap you frim a pole. Probably more.

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