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Looking to upgrade stock door speakers

I have a non jbl 2nd gen with a new pioneer 4800 head unit. I want to replace the door speakers. Looks like crossovers are the best bang for the buck but will it be a pain in the ass to wire them up. Would like to keep it all plug and play. Any advice on which is the best speakers and best way to go for the best sound


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Why would you think you need to wire in crossovers?

If you mean components, yes, they are best, and include a crossover network, but won't really shine with that amount of power from the hu.


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You can take a day reading posts on this subject. Long story short, getting rid of the crap stock mini amp under that passenger seat. I did that first and the stock speakers sounded a world better.
I also won up swapping all speakers in the doors and adding another amp and sub.

Azblue has a great thread on the amp swap.


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Yes I meant components. So with just the hu no since in spending the money on them?


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Yes I meant components. So with just the hu no since in spending the money on them?


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They will likely sound better than stock, but unless you plan on eventually installing an amp, I wouldn't go with components.

I have ran components off stock HU power, and they were better, but no where near how much better they sound with proper power going to them.

Most components need at least 20 watts rms to actually sound somewhat good. We probably have 7.


Edit: I read back and realized you are adding an aftermarket HU. You are in the borderline area. The 20 watts that that HU probably puts out will be enough to push components. Not to 100%, but should be enough to say that they are not a waste.

However, if you are utilizing the factory wiring to the fronts, the front dash gets the power first, and have basically a bass blocker in line. Then goes to the door.

I had to modify my harness at the dash to get full range.

You are only about $150-200 more to add an amp. I had an HD900/5, and took it out. However it ran to everything, so I had to put something in it's place for trade in. I bought a Pioneer amp off Amazon for about $80, 40x4 rms @ 4 ohm. I was actually thoroughly impressed for how cheap it was. No white noise, worked well.

I said $150-200 as you will need a set of 4 chan rca's, and power/ground kit. I think that amp only needed an 8ga cable. Had to modify ring terminals to re-use the 4ga Knuconceptz wire I had in the truck. Was too big to just fit.

Amp I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I will say it won't win any contests, and it is large for the output, but was actually impressed.


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That explains a lot more thanks for the detailed response definitely gonna look into doing that. The hu is already in and that's why I'm wanting to upgrade the speakers. Just the hu improved the stock speakers


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That explains a lot more thanks for the detailed response definitely gonna look into doing that. The hu is already in and that's why I'm wanting to upgrade the speakers. Just the hu improved the stock speakers


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No problem. I did my audio on a budget. It wasn't really a budget as people think, with a 900/5, and a 13tw5, Pioneer D series components etc... But it was still a budget build.

Things sometimes happen in steps. That is how my system evolved.

That amp vs the Jl was actually really good for the price. I had low expectations, and just wanted to keep my JL amp. But sq was actually really good too.

You already have outputs from the HU.

At this time I would say go with components. You can add the amp later. Will require a total re-wire. But, at least you will already have the components and won't waste money on coaxials then just end up tossing them or selling them for .30 on the dollar you spent.


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Just getting components now and using the hu will call for a rewrite? Or once I ad the amp? This stereo stuff if all new to me. All I have ever done is install tweeters. Hu was easy but taking baby steps


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Well, yes, but no.

If you add an amp, you will have to run wires from it to the speakers. The woofer and tweeter will both need wires ran from the x-over. The wires to the X-over also will need to be ran from the amp.


The amp will also need to be wired in, power/ground, rca's, and signal/remote wire.

Without the amp, the x-over needs full signal, so you have to take it from before the dash speakers, or at the back of the HU. Then to x-over, then to the woofer and the tweeter from the X-over.

This is only for the front. Rear is only fill, and I do NOT suggest components for the rear. You will not notice the difference with your system.

If you go amp, then the rears would only need to be wired to the amp. You could come in at the B pillar and solder into the factory wire like I did.


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Oh okay seems almost simple enough. Looks like I will try it I appreciate all the details


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I have a grade 08 and the stock radio was too weak. I bought a speaker level amp but then got a good deal on a HU with good power out so I went that route. I had thought about making some or buying speaker mounts as I have some pioneer 2 way but for me the stock speakers are good enough. but usually I just have the radio on for the noise. I can hear the radio just fine with all the windows down.
Components are a lot more work. If the clarity is that important to you then go for it. I think I would sound deaden the cab first as you may not hear better quality speakers if you don't. They also may not be as loud as the stock if they have a lower sensitivity.
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