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I think this can be buffed out. No big deal.


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There is no such thing. The military will use many many grades of materials depending on the purpose. I use 2XXX - 7xxx Aluminum all the time. Some of it is sent out for special treatments before I even get it. Same for stainless, steel, Ti, bronze, etc....

Just another bullshit term used to give people a warm fuzzy.
Exactly...and just because it meets some military specification "Mil-Spec" that doesn't mean it's the best in that class.


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There is no such thing. The military will use many many grades of materials depending on the purpose. I use 2XXX - 7xxx Aluminum all the time. Some of it is sent out for special treatments before I even get it. Same for stainless, steel, Ti, bronze, etc....

Just another bullshit term used to give people a warm fuzzy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the purpose of the higher series number aluminum alloys was primarily tensile strength?

I understand the "military grade" term doesn't mean squat. I don't think the different grades are going to change the melting point.

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I am avoiding all these new gimmicks (28 spd trannies, echo turbo reverse valve magic motors, space age body materials) like the plague as long as I can. Probably hold my 09 for another 4 or 5 years. Then find a new Tundra if it's still the same basic concept or a used '19 or '20 while everyone is running out to be the test mule for the next gen. A lot of people ragged on Toyota in '14 for no significant updates like everybody else, but everything is tried and true with millions of miles of real world stress testing at this point. I get their reluctance to start fresh. If I can get this same powertrain and structure in 2019 or 2020 I will probably do it. I'll be ready to dip my toes in all this new tech next time after that once all these manufacturers have learned from their mistakes.

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It is the oxides with sparking causing the fires in the aluminum trucks. As time goes by, it will become a little more common. Two words: Poor Engineering.


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I'm not sure how any of this melting metal is a problem. If it's hot enough to melt aluminum I'm pretty sure the occupants, had they stayed inside, would have died before it melted.
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I am avoiding all these new gimmicks (28 spd trannies, echo turbo reverse valve magic motors, space age body materials) like the plague as long as I can. Probably hold my 09 for another 4 or 5 years. Then find a new Tundra if it's still the same basic concept or a used '19 or '20 while everyone is running out to be the test mule for the next gen. A lot of people ragged on Toyota in '14 for no significant updates like everybody else, but everything is tried and true with millions of miles of real world stress testing at this point. I get their reluctance to start fresh. If I can get this same powertrain and structure in 2019 or 2020 I will probably do it. I'll be ready to dip my toes in all this new tech next time after that once all these manufacturers have learned from their mistakes.
Than I don't understand why you don't drive a '45 car. I guess what you are saying is that old stuf is better than new...

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Than I don't understand why you don't drive a '45 car. I guess what you are saying is that old stuf is better than new...


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A lot of people ragged on Toyota in '14 for no significant updates like everybody else, but everything is tried and true with millions of miles of real world stress testing at this point. I get their reluctance to start fresh..

Can't blame 'em ... look how the new Tacoma is panning out with tran problems, oil leaks, etc..

I like the new look but would take a 2015 over a 16 or 17 right now.

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I was browsing on the 2015+ F150 Forum and ran across this post by a member FORCED on August 1, 2017. I found it to be scary and amazing at the same time. The good part of this is, according to the OP, no-one was hurt in the crash.

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"The short story:

I bought a Race Red 2017 SuperCrew FX4 with a 3.5EB at the end of May. Fast forward two months to Saturday, July 29th. I hit a car in front of me at a speed of 30-40 mph. The front airbags deployed. I moved to the side of the road. Within 2 minutes the truck was on fire. It started at the bottom of the driver side B pillar. Between the initial collision when the truck dialed 911 to the time it was fully engulfed had to be less than 10 minutes. Melted it down. It was something to hear the tires, shocks, windows, and whatever else popping in the fire. I am waiting on my insurance to give me a replacement value. Funny thing is they said they wouldn't be going to Ford. Possibly a seat belt pretensioner issue? That seems to be the consensus so far."
Can you post a link to the original thread, I went searching for it but couldnt find it.

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Can you post a link to the original thread, I went searching for it but couldnt find it.

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Never mind, I found it. I was on the wrong F150 forums, who knew they had like 14 different forums.

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2017-...lision-390191/

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