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Sting Ray 11-11-2017 09:19 AM

Need Wax Advice
 
Good morning! I recently purchased a 2017 Tundra CM in magnetic grey. Of course it doesn't fit in the garage so unfortunately she'll be sitting outside in the desert sun all day. I haven't waxed a car in about 15 years. Whats good? Whats bad? How do you apply and remove? Thanks for the advice

Les_Paul 11-11-2017 12:40 PM

Youíll want a DA polisher for a truck this size. Makes the process a lot easier on the arms. I wipe off the wax/polish by hand with soft microfiber cloths though.

I live in Houston, which is obviously different from the desert, but Collinite Insulator Wax #845 lasts a long time for me. I wax once or twice a year and always have water beading.

In addition to that I will polish the truck once a year before I use the Collinite with Meguiarís Ultimate Polish. That stuff works well in getting fine swirls out of the clear coat.

As long as you put forth some effort in maintaining the paint itíll look great for a long time.


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OldGuy43 11-11-2017 01:08 PM

I have been converted to polymer sealants like Zaino for protection of special vehicles I plan to keep a long time. The first application is a little more complicated compared to polishing and waxing, but the protection and shine can be maintained with little additional effort. Nothing, IMO, will really prevent damage to modern paint from bird droppings, so hopefully, you won't have to park under trees.

RingSteel 11-12-2017 09:56 AM

Anyone ever use this product?

https://topcoat.store/

BIL told me about it. Been using Zaino for years ......

Lots of good products so it makes choosing pretty interesting.....

well just found this look for review by armin:
http://www.ssforums.com/forum/detail...-review-2.html

UNTMatt 05-13-2018 08:18 AM

I've been using Collinite 476 Super Doublecoat for the past few years and it works fantastic. It is their longest lasting wax. This next round, I'm switching to the Collinite Marque D'Elegance #915 since we have a black Tundra and the 915 is supposed to be a bit better for dark colors.

Les_Paul gave good advice on the DA polisher. Get a decent one.

The differences are listed in their FAQ section:

What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.

Big Shasta 05-13-2018 09:03 AM

Wax is 1985. You want a good synthetic product.

Follow around @Jumbo Jet the guy is a detailing genius.

Here's one with steps taken on a neglected finish. You could follow this but skip the correction steps. You'll find a bunch of his threads very helpful.
https://www.tundratalk.net/forums/sho...orrection.html

This is a great DA polisher that will last forever.
https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...dom+orbital.do

These guys have great product.
https://www.chemicalguys.com/

UNTMatt 05-13-2018 11:11 AM

He is a genius.

Detailing can be as expensive as you want it to be. Although that stuff is very nice, at least in my case, I don't see the point. I'll be waxing a couple of times per year and a can of Collinite that lasts a very long time, costs substantially less than the synthetics that, around here, will have to be redone every one to two years. All that does, is protect from the elements. My wife drives a MDX and the hood looks like it's been shot with a automatic bb gun. No synthetic or wax will protect from the rocks and debris tossed around in the metromess by construction vehicles and commuter traffic.

I've not tried it yet; however, after reading the reviews, I picked up a HF DA polisher, replaced the backing plate, bought some good pads, flipped the switch, and regreased the gearbox (that seems to be the necessary mod's from what I've read). For a DA polisher that will only be used a couple of times per year, that's as much as I was willing to spend. Most of the reviews seem to be good so I'm going to hope for the best; otherwise, I'll just hand wax and screw polishing.

--Matt

24hrsparkey 05-13-2018 12:33 PM

Waxing is allot of work .

I use Chemical Guys products . Good stuff and I use thier Finnish was that's specifically for White paint .
Twice a year application , with a few Lucas quick spray " wax" in between.

HVACn00b 05-13-2018 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24hrsparkey (Post 9313202)
Waxing is allot of work .

I use Chemical Guys products . Good stuff and I use thier Finnish was that's specifically for White paint .
Twice a year application , with a few Lucas quick spray " wax" in between.



Grab the chemical guys v7 spray retailer works phenomenal and smells just as good


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UNTMatt 05-15-2018 09:37 AM

I've been using the Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer. Spray on right after rinsing and before drying. Works fantastic and smells good. I use a high volume spray bottle and buy the detailer by the gallon off of Amazon. Mix it with distilled water.

--Matt

taaland 05-15-2018 02:45 PM

Collinite 845 is the best option here. I apply mine by hand with a foam applicator, then remove with a clean microfiber. Its not too bad. If you're really feeling like you want to add some protection, put a layer of Jescar Powerlock underneath. Apply with the same steps, but then let it cure for 3 hours (I usually wait overnight) then put a layer of Collonite 845 on top. Should last 6-8 months.

Edit: Also, I apply some spray wax after each wash just as a sacrificial layer for a couple days. Meguiars D156 is cheap and easy to use. Optimum Car Wax is a spray wax that works well also.

24hrsparkey 05-15-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taaland (Post 9316370)
Collinite 845 is the best option here. I apply mine by hand with a foam applicator, then remove with a clean microfiber. Its not too bad. If you're really feeling like you want to add some protection, put a layer of Jescar Powerlock underneath. Apply with the same steps, but then let it cure for 3 hours (I usually wait overnight) then put a layer of Collonite 845 on top. Should last 6-8 months.

Edit: Also, I apply some spray wax after each wash just as a sacrificial layer for a couple days. Meguiars D156 is cheap and easy to use. Optimum Car Wax is a spray wax that works well also.

The Lucas or Meguires spray "wax" detailers are cheap enough and work real well as lube for claybar ing .
My son uses this method on his older truck .
My truck is new , and that's why I only have to use chemical guys , Finnish wax for white paint . No oxidation and no swirl scratches so far , and it's kinda nice .

taaland 05-16-2018 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24hrsparkey (Post 9317042)
The Lucas or Meguires spray "wax" detailers are cheap enough and work real well as lube for claybar ing .
My son uses this method on his older truck .
My truck is new , and that's why I only have to use chemical guys , Finnish wax for white paint . No oxidation and no swirl scratches so far , and it's kinda nice .

Yeah I just use the spray wax as a drying aid to add some lubrication while drying mostly. Powerlock and Collinite are the real protection on my pickup. I try to avoid Chemical Guys, too many horror stories and enough very good alternatives to not even think twice.

24hrsparkey 05-17-2018 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taaland (Post 9318634)
Yeah I just use the spray wax as a drying aid to add some lubrication while drying mostly. Powerlock and Collinite are the real protection on my pickup. I try to avoid Chemical Guys, too many horror stories and enough very good alternatives to not even think twice.

What kind of horror , product or service ?

Thank you

taaland 05-18-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24hrsparkey (Post 9320274)
What kind of horror , product or service ?

Thank you

Mostly service. But also not convinced on their products either. But, if it works for you, then that is all that matters.

I've had really good luck with Adams products. Great service with them also. But for protection, I use Powerlock and Collinite 845. Its a rock solid combo for summer and winter. Usually do an application 2x a year.


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