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I don't believe you have to, but if you don't you're basically removing the bigger marks to replace with finer ones. You should polish it up with 4000 or 1500....C'mon your wife is worth it!

And you could just do one coat of the PL for now-which if you get good coverage will be fine-and then do another coat later on if you want to.

I think that PL on top of PL is diminishing returns big time and from what I was taught by Sensei, is really done just to ensure coverage if any spots are missed.

I think you'll be a lot happier with the results if you polish with the 1500 or 4000 after doing the 400...but test first...you might be good to go after just doing the 1500 and then could go straight to the PL...

JJ could say for sure, but a higher speed and more agressive pad might be enough to get the marks out with the 1500...I think it's going to be one of those "you don't know until you try" scenarios.
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Jumbo, I've been watching all of the ammonyc videos and he seems to be really high on using microfiber pads with his polishers. What the benefits of using these over a foam pad? If SI1500 was the most abrasive polish I was using would microfiber be too abrasive for this? What types of treatments would work better with microfiber pads?


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Wife just got a 2012 Venza. Gonna clay it tomorrow and was gonna make a pass with SF4000 then 2 coats of PL. Paint is in good shape, usual swirls...Do you think the SF4000 will be enough or should I drop down to SI1500? I also have FG 400.

4000 is a light jeweling polish, it won't give you much cut. Try 1500 with an orange pad and see where you're at. For best results, 400 with an orange pad, don't buff off, and go right over it with 4000 and a green pad. Buff clean and finish should look amazing. Seal with Power Lock. Wait at least three hours between the first and second layer of Power Lock, or apply second layer after your next wash.

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Jumbo, I've been watching all of the ammonyc videos and he seems to be really high on using microfiber pads with his polishers. What the benefits of using these over a foam pad? If SI1500 was the most abrasive polish I was using would microfiber be too abrasive for this? What types of treatments would work better with microfiber pads?


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MF pads are about all I use for cutting and correcting. Nothing wrong with foam, but MF cuts so much better.

I use Menzerna 400 or M105 with a MF pad for easy cutting power. Then follow with 4000 and a green foam pad. It helps to have an air compressor handy to blow them out and fluff them up in between panels. Or an old stiff brush works well too. They get matted down after a panel or two.

For serious correction, such as a Mercedes with "ceramic-clear" clear coats, I love Surbuf MF pads. Much stiffer fibers than the Optimum, άber or Meguiars MF pads.
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I got the Surbuf pads so for the Tundra the next time I do correction would you suggest a lower speed on the Griot's or finer polish or both?

Working on putting the project together...Just so much to it and I've been busy lately...
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I order lake country pads yesterday but I must have mistakenly been under the impression they were foam. Thanks for the clarification.


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Hey Jumbo,

My wife's new car has some black plastic under the front bumper, feels like a fairly hard plastic. What would you recommend using on that to protect it and give it a nice shine?
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Hey Jumbo,

My wife's new car has some black plastic under the front bumper, feels like a fairly hard plastic. What would you recommend using on that to protect it and give it a nice shine?

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I got the Surbuf pads so for the Tundra the next time I do correction would you suggest a lower speed on the Griot's or finer polish or both?

Working on putting the project together...Just so much to it and I've been busy lately...

You can play with it and dial in a good speed. The Surbufs won't damage anything, but the fibers are stiffer so they tend to leave tiny little marks on the paint. The marks are more apparent on darker cars, but they come right out with the next step polish and the finish will be perfect. It's really no big deal, just a heads up for people using a Surbuf for the first time.

If you're using FG 400 with a Surbuf, try starting with Griots on 4-5 and see where you're at. You'll get great cut on that speed. Then follow with SF 4000 and a green pad to jewel it out.

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So I ended up doing as u guys suggested, 400 right to 4000 then a single coat of PL. the results were worth the 3 hours it took.ImageUploadedByAutoGuide1379271798.601510.jpg
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Nice!! Looks amazing. What did you think of Menzerna? Pretty simple, huh?
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Yeah this is the second time I use their product, first on my Tundra. I couldn't be happier with the results I get using the Griots DA and Menzerna. Thx again.

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What do you guys like to use to get dried wax off of softer rubber like door gaskets etc?

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