5th wheel towing

[Steelhead]

Hey there, was wondering if anyone with a 07 crewmax has measured up or towed a 5th wheel. I was told at the dealership it wouldn't work, I measured it up and it looked pretty darn close...
I have a 27' Topaz 5th wheel, I am sure pulling is not the problem but swinging and jackknifing the trailing I fear it will hit the cab.
Just sold my chevy to but my third toyota, lovin it!!!
Before I put in the trailer attachments in the box of the truck, I wanted to make sure before I start spending cash!
If it doesn't work, going to buy a trailer, wanted slides anyways I guess if it don't work!:
Thanks if you can help me out!

[jpnca]

A little info here

Gooseneck trailers

[Larry]

Just hook a tape measure to the king pin and walk from one side all the way around to the other side and note the greatest measurment. This will probably be 45 degrees from center. Then put the tape measure a little bit (6 inches?) forward of the rear axle and see if the distance to the front of the box is greater than what you recorded on the trailer. You might want to add a few inches just to be sure.

[Codiac]

Ya....what he said or I said.....wait who said that?? Larry has it so follow that and you will know if you can tow it or not. Check the link by jpnca for further info which is basically the same.

[Z '07 Tundra]

Apparently, PullRite has a 5th wheel hitch specifically for the "short-short" truck beds (like the Tundra CM)...
http://www.pullrite.com/pdfs/2008&#3...0Chart%201.pdf

[Steelhead]

Cool!! Thx for the info guys!!!

[Steelhead]

Thanks Z!!! Looks like it'll work.

[tedstundra]

Originally Posted by Steelhead

Hey there, was wondering if anyone with a 07 crewmax has measured up or towed a 5th wheel. I was told at the dealership it wouldn't work, I measured it up and it looked pretty darn close...
I have a 27' Topaz 5th wheel, I am sure pulling is not the problem but swinging and jackknifing the trailing I fear it will hit the cab.
Just sold my chevy to but my third toyota, lovin it!!!
Before I put in the trailer attachments in the box of the truck, I wanted to make sure before I start spending cash!
If it doesn't work, going to buy a trailer, wanted slides anyways I guess if it don't work!:
Thanks if you can help me out!

I just bought a new Tundra with the intention of putting a fifth wheel on it. After a lot of research and confusion, I am now convinced that there are very few fith wheel trailers that can be pulled by the Tundra. It's not the towing capacity, it's the weight of the 5vers hitch. When you subtract the curb weight of the truck from the allowable gross allowed weight you end with about 1680 pounds of allowable cargo in and on the truck...Taking into account the weight of two people, the fifth wheel hitch (must be a slider for a short bed) and other luggage and tools one might carry in the truck one ends with an allowable hitch weight of about 1100 pounds. Maybe a little more, but not much. Very few fifth wheel trailers will be that light at the hitch when they are loaded with the stuff put in a trailer while traveling.

[Steelhead]

Originally Posted by tedstundra

I just bought a new Tundra with the intention of putting a fifth wheel on it. After a lot of research and confusion, I am now convinced that there are very few fith wheel trailers that can be pulled by the Tundra. It's not the towing capacity, it's the weight of the 5vers hitch. When you subtract the curb weight of the truck from the allowable gross allowed weight you end with about 1680 pounds of allowable cargo in and on the truck...Taking into account the weight of two people, the fifth wheel hitch (must be a slider for a short bed) and other luggage and tools one might carry in the truck one ends with an allowable hitch weight of about 1100 pounds. Maybe a little more, but not much. Very few fifth wheel trailers will be that light at the hitch when they are loaded with the stuff put in a trailer while traveling.

tHX FOR THE INFO.......... What if you put air bags in in it!?
Will that increase the allowable load??
And is that American law or Canadian...Don't know if there is a difference.
Also, with the slider style hitch, at the furthest setting back towards the tailgate, is there enough clearance so the cab doesnt hit the front of the 5th wheel??

[tedstundra]

Originally Posted by Steelhead

tHX FOR THE INFO.......... What if you put air bags in in it!?
Will that increase the allowable load??
And is that American law or Canadian...Don't know if there is a difference.
Also, with the slider style hitch, at the furthest setting back towards the tailgate, is there enough clearance so the cab doesnt hit the front of the 5th wheel??

I have heard of two (at least) ways to increase the allowable hitch weight for a 5ver. One (air bags) was highly recommended by a person I met who has them installed. Says they not only decreased the sag of the truck under a heavier load, but also smoothed out the ride. The other (Super Springs) has a lot of promotional material on the internet, but I have heard from no one with any experience using them. They are apparently cheaper than air bags. By the way I have found that there are slider hitches that will accommadate a 6.5 ft truck bed.

[Jackleg]

Originally Posted by tedstundra

I have heard of two (at least) ways to increase the allowable hitch weight for a 5ver. One (air bags) was highly recommended by a person I met who has them installed. Says they not only decreased the sag of the truck under a heavier load, but also smoothed out the ride. The other (Super Springs) has a lot of promotional material on the internet, but I have heard from no one with any experience using them. They are apparently cheaper than air bags. By the way I have found that there are slider hitches that will accommadate a 6.5 ft truck bed.

Try running a search on the "Tundra Solutions" Forum. You will find more information there on the SuperSprings.

[Steelhead]

Originally Posted by tedstundra

I have heard of two (at least) ways to increase the allowable hitch weight for a 5ver. One (air bags) was highly recommended by a person I met who has them installed. Says they not only decreased the sag of the truck under a heavier load, but also smoothed out the ride. The other (Super Springs) has a lot of promotional material on the internet, but I have heard from no one with any experience using them. They are apparently cheaper than air bags. By the way I have found that there are slider hitches that will accommadate a 6.5 ft truck bed.

thanks again for the great info!!
The slider hitch, is that just a reg. hitch that has two settings. You can slide towards the cab or towards the tailgate??? Also the box, will it fit in the 5.5' box (crewmax) versus the 6.5' box as you suggested.
Has anyone out there pulled a 5th wheel, with their crewmax... Is their enoughclearance between the cab and the front of the 5th wheel?
I would try to measure it up but I have 8 feet of snow piled up in front of it so I cant even get close to it. I may have to sell. Everyone i've talked to seem to think it won't work. Still haven't tried the "Pullrite" brand...

[tedstundra]

Originally Posted by Steelhead

thanks again for the great info!!
The slider hitch, is that just a reg. hitch that has two settings. You can slide towards the cab or towards the tailgate??? Also the box, will it fit in the 5.5' box (crewmax) versus the 6.5' box as you suggested.
Has anyone out there pulled a 5th wheel, with their crewmax... Is their enoughclearance between the cab and the front of the 5th wheel?
I would try to measure it up but I have 8 feet of snow piled up in front of it so I cant even get close to it. I may have to sell. Everyone i've talked to seem to think it won't work. Still haven't tried the "Pullrite" brand...

I mentioned the 6.5 foot bed because I have a double cab, The web site for the Pullrite hitches specifically identifies a special hitch for the crew cab. So apparently there is one out there (at least). Another caution I have found in seaching through the literture on Super Springs and Air Bags is the warning not exceed the trucks gross weight restrictons. If you follow these warnings one shouldn't get a 5ver hitch weight of over about 1200 lbs of so. And load the truck lightly. After all, the maximum payload on the Tundra is about 1680 lbs. I believe I am interpreting all the data correctly; if not, would someone staighten me out.