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Buying a new travel trailer, help me make a decision!

Our family is expanding and the setup and tear down on my tent trailer is getting to be more than I want to deal with. With three girls in the house a bathroom anywhere on the road to our destinations would also be a huge plus, so we are moving on up to a TT or HTT. I was going to buy something new, but I think it would be smarter to grab a preowned trailer to limit my loss if and when we move up. I have two trailers in question right now. One is at a dealer and brand new (so I have to pay tax on it), one is a private party and the owner wants my tent trailer plus cash.

First trailer is a 2013 Skyline Bobcat 264B. Weighs in at around 6k# dry with an 800# tongue weight and 7700# max capacity. MSRP is $28k, negotiated down to $20k. With tax and my trade in it would be around $24k OTD (around $255 p/mo for 120 mos). I do not believe that we would ever outgrow this trailer, but I am not very happy about needing to deal with a WDH and having such a high tongue weight. We also camp off the grid a ton and this trailer is long (26'4" without the hitch included) so that could get us into some trouble. This is far less camper, far more house on wheels.




Second trailer is a 2007 Jayco 19H. Weighs in at around 3750# dry, 450# tongue, and 5000# max capacity. Would be around $10k on this trailer (my current trailer + cash) so a much lower price tag. In order to not deal with the bank I would write a check off of a CC for the total amount (no fee, 5.99% for the life of the balance). Paying the same amount as the trailer above I would have this trailer paid off in about 3 years and hold the title in hand. This trailer is 19' so much easier to maneuver off the beaten path. I love the pop out beds of an HTT as it has the feel I love about the pop up, but the benefits of a TT.



^these photos are not the exact trailer, just the same model. The trailer in question already has a small lift and AT tires with a locking toolbox in front to hold gear.

The practical side of me says get the Jayco. Much easier to tow, less worry of damage off the road, and only carry a payment three years (or just pull the cash and have no payment). My wife, naturally, likes the Bobcat's features and size. She leaves these decisions up to me though. What do you guys think?

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You and edit 3 women in a 19 ft seems very cramped.

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Would be me and three women, my wife and two daughters. Keep in mind that the beds take no floor space on a HTT, so it is essentially the same as a 26ft TT.

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If that's the case, I'd go with the cheaper one. But your wife wants the bigger one. Will she still be happy in the 19?

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My father in law has a Terry trailer nearly identical to the Jayco trailer you posted. The drawbacks are condensation on the tents resulting in water dripping on ya while your sleeping. If I could make a suggestion trailer wise look at the Forestriver Roo 25RS, same concept except the bed is a hard slide, and king bed at that.

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I've wanted a TT for a while, not quite in a position to buy one yet. We've looked at a few, my wife would never go for one with tent pop-outs.

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Admit it, you are upgrading because I said that your trailer looks to small behind the Tundra

You should have a look at the Starcraft Hybrids, that is what we purchased earlier this year to replace our pop-up camper. The dry weight is just under 4K and it is quite roomy inside since the beds pop out. It is very similar to the Jayco you have pictured. The beds setup and tear down very quickly and are a ton more stable than the beds in our pop-up camper were. I also love the full size refrigerator and freezer that actually work really really well when running on gas.

This is the model I purchased and I purchased it from that location in Mesa as well:

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They also have another model that has 3 pop out beds rather than 2 and weighs about another 500 pounds. You can see all of the expandable floor plans and specs on the Starcraft website.


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I have a 2012 jayco 25bhs. You should look into it. 6310lbs dry. Bunk houses are awesome for a family. I would recommend a WDH for any camper weighing more than 4k. It just keeps you from sagging and keeps the ride smooth.

Heck I'll sell you mine lol. My wife has been talking about a driving unit already.

You wouldn't like a hybrid. Those tents draw condensation, you can hear all the noises outside, people can hear your family, etc...

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I actually want the pop out beds. I like that about the tent trailer, and where we camp I won't be hearing anyone lol.

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One thing we actually like about the tent campers are the full windows (plastic, vinyl?) and being able to see out just about anywhere in it. The TT or HTT have a lot of the walls covered with cabinets, etc which can be useful. We have the Jayco 1207 pop up, 2009. My parents have had fifth wheels for some time and we feel "boxed in" in it.
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You and edit 3 women in a 19 ft seems very cramped.

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I agree with JCB... better opt for a 31-33 so you can have your game room in the back...turn into man cave! haha.

Honestly the expandable would be the way to go especially for off the grid and driving. My parents have a 26 that is a 33ft floor plan with the expandables out. Its great for 2 fully grown kids (my brother and I) to come up and sleep in comfortably if we want to meet them for the week. If you camp longer than two nights with everyone there...the last thing you want is to be at each others throats in a small space.

Something my dad taught me....always listen to your wife when it comes to more space in house/camper... in the long run she will be happy = you happy ... just my .02 cents lol

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I worked the deal with the man selling the Jayco. I will be picking it up tomorrow. I think I made the right decision, time will tell. Here are some photos of the actual trailer.








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I worked the deal with the man selling the Jayco. I will be picking it up tomorrow. I think I made the right decision, time will tell. Here are some photos of the actual trailer.
You made the right decision. It will hold its value longer plus you've got less $ in it. The vacuum formed sides are MUCH better than the corrugated aluminum sides. Keep it waxed to keep it shiny. Nice toolbox on the tongue and alum wheels vs steel. Have fun knowing you spent less... always a good thing!

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Brought it home tonight and I am thoroughly excited. The Tundra towed it like a dream, only negative is the mileage, which was a given. With only 10psi in the rear bags it only sagged around an inch with the trailer on. Not going to run a WDH or anything so this was great news for me. My wife is happy, my daughter is happy, I am happy. Definitely feel that I made the right decision.

Only crappy photos right now, but here is the new Everly Manor

Goodbye, old friend....

....hello new one

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Growing up, we have had everything from pop ups to motor homes and several full size models. Dad picked up a 19H back in 06, and I bought a new on last year. Its the best TT I have ever owned.

It's large when unfolded, light, easy to tow. You made a good choice.

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