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#1 (permalink) Old 02-04-2010, 09:04 PM
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Post Bulletproof 12" Suspension Lift Q&A

I've had a ton of people PM me asking me details about the lift regarding price, availability, what's needed, tire sizes fitting, MPG, etc. So I'm going to make a list of everything that everybody as asked (in case somebody else is wondering and just hasn't asked it yet) and as I think of more things, I will update the list. Anybody else with more information, please also chime in.

I know when I was doing my research I had to pick apart threads for details and information surrounding the lift, specs, fitment, etc so a one-stop-shop for everything should be a hit?

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Suspension Lift
$3200 - The kits are available online for around this price. Everything included in the kit.
$600 - Rear Atlas leaf springs are going to be something you want if you're going this high up. I haven't found anybody yet who has installed the kit without upgrading the leaf springs too.

Look around and see if you can get custom shops to get it cheaper. Bulletproof is not like BDS offering a discount promo every couple of months, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Wheels
Wheels will cost you whatever you decide to get. Figure to spend around $200 - $300 per wheel depending on what you get. My XD Monsters cost me $250/wheel through my shop.

Tires
Depending on the brand and size... this could make/break your budget. I'm totally biased towards Toyo because of the aggressiveness of the tire yet it doesn't hum like crazy while you're going down the freeway at 65MPH.

I'm at 38x13.50x20 tire and I paid roughly $450 per tire.

Tire/Wheel Fitment
I'm running 38x13.50x20 tires on a -12 offset wheel. No body mount cutting was done and I do not rub at all full turn both ways.

Unless you want to so a lot of body mount chopping, then you don't want to go with any more wide of a tire than a 13.50. They make 37s, 38s, and 40s in this width. If you get into the wider tire (15.50) then expect to have severe rubbing and/or a lot of cutting involved. There are people rolling around with 15.50 width tires on their truck so I will let them chime in for the correct offset in order to stick out the rims a little more.

The Ride After
The ride itself after going up 12" is actually very similar to stock. The biggest noticable differences are going to be due to the larger tires.
** Acceleration is not going to be as peppy as it once was
** For people getting M/T tires from a 1-10 MPH roll you will feel the truck shaking due to the knobs in the tires. Kind-of weird at first
** MPG takes a hit

Again, the ride itself is absolutely wonderful and smooth although I'm still having issues with bed bounce after the fact while going down the freeway.

*Update* - I removed the spare tire from under the truck bed (because what the hell would I need it for?) and with my back end being so light now, the bed bounce just about shakes me to death on long trips at speeds over 65MPH+. I'm thinking about adding some serious weight back there with sandbags, Line-X, and maybe even a tiregate just to weigh that back-end down...

MPG
Currently averaging about 12.1 MPG and I use my truck for about 70% Highway / 30% City each tank of gas.
I'm personally curious to see if somebody with the bulletproof is getting better MPG with 37" tires than my 38" tires. Anybody with 37s care to answer?

Measurements
I don't have any of the stock measurements yet... Need somebody to provide
Ground to middle of fenderwell = 51.75"
Ground to bottom of AMP step = 25.75"
Ground to top of truck = 88" (7 feet 6 inches or 7.5 ft.)

I'm 6'6" (78") so this truck doesn't look THAT big to me....

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I'm including images that best show wheel space, gap, and height...





...More to come...


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Thanks for the write up, I know it will help alot of people. Truck looks great!



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lookin forward to mpg findings.
lookin at ur truck makes me want to rethink my lift kit... its a good thing im so broke... it gives me lots of time to switch back and fourth between wantin a 6-7'' or a 12'' lift haha

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Do you have any or all measurements (before/after/stock)? In regards to the center on the fender openings.


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thanks for the help man!!!
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That is a great looking truck!

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Anything or do I have to drive out to AZ and do it myself?


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yeah I think I'm going with this next year...

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Be careful man. Don't let her pull the same trick on you that my wife did.
Gained about 3 lbs a year. Nothing you could really put your finger on.
25 years later......yeah. Just sayin.
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Anything or do I have to drive out to AZ and do it myself?
Sorry man... haven't been home much.

Going outside to measure things now... will reply with updates measurements...


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I think he got lost outside...

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Gained about 3 lbs a year. Nothing you could really put your finger on.
25 years later......yeah. Just sayin.
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Maybe he had to run down to the hardware store to get a ladder and longer tape measure.


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Maybe he had to run down to the hardware store to get a ladder and longer tape measure.
I'm wondering about fitment issues since they had to hack my truck for the bds kit...

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