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The official Drive Shaft Problem thread

So some of you may know that I'm on my second tundra. I had a 2008 dbl cab that I recently sold and a new 2009 Crewmax that I have now. BOTH have had major drive drive shaft problems. I will go into detail about what the problems are and what the dealer and toyota says.

First off the problems.

1. Clunking on hard stop and start.
2. Vibration

These are the big problems. You see the drive shafts in these tundras have a joint which allows them to flex. This is where it clunks. Also these shafts are balanced. If they are not balanced you will get a vibration.


Dealers answer:

1. There is no problem with clunk.
2. I don't feel it.
3. Its normal
4. Your truck vin does not fall within the recall.

There was a recall for this very problem on the 07 model but that is where it stops. The drive shafts all the way up to 09 still do it but they have a vin range for replacement and hold you to it despite you problem being the SAME as the TSB diagnosis.


My experience:

My 08 had the clunk. I took it to the dealer in Denver. They refused to acknowledge its existence. I fought with them. They said toyota won't pay for replacement. They agreed to take a shaft off a new truck on lot and replace mine with that one. (DIRTY). The clunk went away but then I had vibration. Dealer denies vibration. We argue, they throw me out of dealer.

I take it to another dealer. They deny the vibration.

I take it to Tire shop. They acknowledge vibration but can't figure out problem.

I take it to yet ANOTHER dealer in my area. THEY ACKNOWLEDGE the problem as bad drive shaft AGAIN and replace that one. Problem fixed.

Now I had a buy for my truck at this point so I sold it the day it was fixed. Yeah I know.

SO I pick up an 09 Crewmax. I needed the room and love the truck and figured 09 won't have problem. Didn't show up on test drive so cool. Week later start feeling drive shaft clunk in the worst way. Make appt with same dealer who fixed first one. New drive shaft going in Thursday. Great guy up there at Burt Toyota in Denver. We shall see if it gets fixed.


Now I don't have the TSB handy but maybe someone can post it. These drive shafts suck. It will make you feel like you are getting hit from the back when you stop.

Post your experieneces. We need to let toyota know that this needs to be fixed properly.

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Toyota TSB about the problem: TSB-0115-08 link




Other Threads:

1. Driveline "bump from behind feeling"
2. Tundrasolutions Thread
3. Small "Clunk" when accellerating from dead stop and ..........
4. Arbitration over drive train clunk
5. Notice to all 07' and 08' Tundra 4x4's

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Mine does the same thing. I guess I should go to the dealer and see what they have to say about it!

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They know what the problem on this is. There is a recall out on it i think the only thing that we can do is to look at the recall and hopefully if we bug then enough it will get fixed....

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They know what the problem on this is. There is a recall out on it i think the only thing that we can do is to look at the recall and hopefully if we bug then enough it will get fixed....
Well the problem sick is that the TSB only addresses 07s and early 08s. If your vin does not fall within that TSB toyota won't replace it. Hence the aggrivation. It doesn't make sense.
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Well the problem sick is that the TSB only addresses 07s and early 08s. If your vin does not fall within that TSB toyota won't replace it. Hence the aggrivation. It doesn't make sense.
My idler pully was not in the vin range eather.. and it is in the shop again as we speak

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My idler pully was not in the vin range eather.. and it is in the shop again as we speak
Some dealers will do the fixes regardless of the vin range and some won't. It boils down to toyota policy which is the very thing in question. For a brand new 09 that was made in January to do this is the very problem we are facing. This should have been fixed a long time ago. Apparently some shafts do it, some don't.
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I know this issue has been addressed pretty hard on this site, and I'm very thankful that people have talked about this problem and posted threads and TSB'S on the driveline. They have helped me reslove my "bump from behind" {for now}. Just wanted to give some more FYI, my 08 drive line was replaced with no avail. A thread was posted on removing the boot on the driveline, pulling the spline out of the rear shaft, cleaning and re-greasing the spline with some GM grease and then magic happened, my "bump" is gone! Thanks to all whom took the time to write in and relay all your info on the this issue!

I LOVE MY TRUCK ....AGAIN!

GREAT POST...My bump didn't go away either until the dealer did this for me. The bump is gone and the truck is so much more responsive now. I got the General Manager of the dealership involved (for this and other reasons). He said he talked to the Toyota Service Specialist who said to do this. I am not sure if this is the case because I had just told the service advisor on Saturday about this post and that this may be the solution. Turns out it was. Thanks for the info. I love my truck...AGAIN...TOO!
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Is there an high performance aftermarket driveshaft available ???
Every thing I have done has not fixed the issue - and to-boot
I noticed that the balance weight on the front shaft has fallen off...
Great welding Toyota..!!! Supposely the drive trains in these vehicles were developed by YOYA's Lexus division.... I wonder how much of it is really Lexus ??? Way past time for a redesign...
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Is there an high performance aftermarket driveshaft available ???
Every thing I have done has not fixed the issue - and to-boot
I noticed that the balance weight on the front shaft has fallen off...
Great welding Toyota..!!! Supposely the drive trains in these vehicles were developed by YOYA's Lexus division.... I wonder how much of it is really Lexus ??? Way past time for a redesign...
The driveshafts of your Tundras are Dana Spicer. Same manufacturer as Ford , Chevy and Dodge. The second Gen.Tundra is the first to use Spicer products in there trucks The first generation used Japanese style driveshafts and they were good. The problem is in the stub and slip shaft. Pump some grease in the spline and reclamp the boot with a hose clamp. All these driveshafts are balanced through Spicer Corp. If anyone lives close to the Chicago land area bring your 2 piece shaft to me and I'll bAlance it for ya. Or give me a pm and I'll give ya some info. You guys can also call your local drivetrain shops in your area and have them balance your driveshaft.

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Also for your info, I have owned a drivetrain shop in Chicago for 15 yrs , And I have only done 1 driveshaft on a new Tundra and it was because it was in a wreck and I needed to fabricate a new rear shaft. These are pretty good driveshafts above all to be honest with you. There seems to be a small percentage of Tundras that have this problem with the driveshafts. In my experience these driveshafts on our trucks are over built, Very strong and very reliabale comming from Spicer corporation who has been making drivetrain parts for over 75 years.

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Also for your info, I have owned a drivetrain shop in Chicago for 15 yrs , And I have only done 1 driveshaft on a new Tundra and it was because it was in a wreck and I needed to fabricate a new rear shaft. These are pretty good driveshafts above all to be honest with you. There seems to be a small percentage of Tundras that have this problem with the driveshafts. In my experience these driveshafts on our trucks are over built, Very strong and very reliabale comming from Spicer corporation who has been making drivetrain parts for over 75 years.
So why the drive bump on stop? Also, my dealer said there is no grease fitting on these. So do we remove the rubber boot and grease it up? Is that the problem? I have had a lot of trucks and NEVER felt this rediculouse
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So..........Uh.......this drive shaft problem. Can it cause any major issues or is it just the "Bump" feeling??
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So..........Uh.......this drive shaft problem. Can it cause any major issues or is it just the "Bump" feeling??
There have been reports of shaft seperation at high speed.
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