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ABS light, traction light, BRAKE light after lift/alignment

I have done some searching but I'm still lost. I installed the LRO 3/1 last night, with some larger tires and wheels. I test drove it about 10 miles last night to make sure everything was tight and functioning.

I drove the truck 15 miles this morning to Tire Kingdom. I asked them to do an alignment, as well as program my new TPMS sensors

When I go to pick up the truck, they say couldn't program TPMS cause it's a toyota , then he mentions the new lights on my dash.

I go to my truck and ABS light, Traction control light and BRAKE light are all solid. No other lights are lit, including my TPMS light which was on earlier.

I do a quick check and all the ABS lines appears to be OK, at least from what I could see in the parking lot.

Just dropped my truck off at the dealership. Any idea what could be wrong? I hope it's not something simple like a zero point calibration.
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I'm surprised they didn't connect a scantool and check codes.
He gave me some bull about his machine didn't go to 2010's.
I checked with my code reader, but got nothing. I think I remember ABS codes being stored in a different computer or something. They did disconnect my battery trying to get the lights to go off though. Very dishonest.
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The ABS wires are very thin. The wire inside can break and the outside appear normal. One guy cut the old wires off and put in better wires to fix his. Solder and heat shrink.


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He gave me some bull about his machine didn't go to 2010's.
I checked with my code reader, but got nothing. I think I remember ABS codes being stored in a different computer or something. They did disconnect my battery trying to get the lights to go off though. Very dishonest.
That's correct. The scantool has to be capable of reading ABS codes and must have your model year software. You could try doing the zero point calibration yourself. Other than that, you're pretty limited on options and you already did a visual inspection of the ABS wiring.
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Zero Point Calibration problems should only show up on long quick curves like the exit ramp of the highway to get on to another highway. It will kick on the traction control during that curve. It shouldn't be a constant light on a parked truck.


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Man that sucks I hope its nothing big good luck
Thanks. I was very careful with all the wires when doing the lift install. I even bent the tabs holding the ABS lines on the front A arms like the directions said to free up some extra room. I'm a a loss at this point. It's at the dealership and I'm sure they are gonna cost a fortune to find it. I am so pissed right now and there isn't much I can do.

Is there some type of resistance test you can run on the ABS sensors? I'm guessing the guy broke or stretched one of those wires while doing the alignment.
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Last time I had a level kit installed, I picked my truck up and had those lights. Took it to the dealership, and they said the front left wiring or sensor was bad. Took it back to the installer, and he found where he stretched/split a wire. He fixed it, lights went out. Dealership wanted to charge me an arm and a leg to replace the wiring and sensor.

If you stretched the wire, you would have seen the lights immediately during your test drive. Sounds like whoever did your alignment stretched the wires....not sure how?

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Last time I had a level kit installed, I picked my truck up and had those lights. Took it to the dealership, and they said the front left wiring or sensor was bad. Took it back to the installer, and he found where he stretched/split a wire. He fixed it, lights went out. Dealership wanted to charge me an arm and a leg to replace the wiring and sensor.

If you stretched the wire, you would have seen the lights immediately during your test drive. Sounds like whoever did your alignment stretched the wires....not sure how?

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Yeah, I've seen it happen before. That's why I was overly protective of them and the CV boot on the front tires. I'm not sure how/why you would stretch them doing an alignment though. Doesn't make much sense to me?
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Yeah, I've seen it happen before. That's why I was overly protective of them and the CV boot on the front tires. I'm not sure how/why you would stretch them doing an alignment though. Doesn't make much sense to me?
Dealer called and said the sensors were way out of wack and needed a Zero Point Calibration. I doubt this was a result of the alignment. Are there sensors located somewhere near the front wheels? I only read about them under the center console.
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Dealer called and said the sensors were way out of wack and needed a Zero Point Calibration. I doubt this was a result of the alignment. Are there sensors located somewhere near the front wheels? I only read about them under the center console.
Told you so. If you lifted it, you need to shim the sensor then do a zero point calibration. I have read it on here a million times. Guys lift their truck and get the exact same result you did.


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Told you so. If you lifted it, you need to shim the sensor then do a zero point calibration. I have read it on here a million times. Guys lift their truck and get the exact same result you did.
Truck drove fine without the ZPC. Had something to do with the alignment. I'm not sure what could have messed it up that bad. Maybe there are sensors on the wheels and he messed them up.

We'll see if this fixes it. I had it on my to do list, but i could have gotten it done for free at the dealership an hour from here. I was going to get it done next time I was in town. They are going to turn off my seat belt chimes and I guess anything else I can find out I want done.
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Truck drove fine without the ZPC. Had something to do with the alignment. I'm not sure what could have messed it up that bad. Maybe there are sensors on the wheels and he messed them up.

We'll see if this fixes it. I had it on my to do list, but i could have gotten it done for free at the dealership an hour from here. I was going to get it done next time I was in town. They are going to turn off my seat belt chimes and I guess anything else I can find out I want done.
Just messing with you on the told you so thing. It's my job around here.

I would look into shimming the sensor as well.

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