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upscountryboy · 05-26-2008, 08:37 PM

I highly RECOMMEND Mother's carnauba wax in the red bottle - - I've had 4 red vehicles now and it does a tremendous job taking out imperfections and acid rain spots...... Had my last truck (Chevy Z71) for almost 10 years and it looked like it rolled off the showroom floor the day I sold it!!

jtruck618 · 05-26-2008, 10:56 PM

That truck is a true classic UPS. In 10-15 years I think it will be a hot truck for restoring. Would love to find a low mileage one to hang onto.

FirstToy · 05-28-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by atelisara

yeah I'm with you bro.........DO NOT RECOMMEND TAKING TUNDRA TO CAR WASH!!!! I took it once and wont' do it again not that it did anything horrible, just think that the carwash people never maintain their tools, supplies, whatever they set out to wash vehicles....anyways about this Clay bar stuff, first time I've heard of it, seen a video on youtube about it....I'll give it a shot next weekend.......by the way the Clay bar method seems time consuming....does that clay bar actually cover the whole vehicle or do you have to use a couple at a time? please respond......thanks much!

I only needed to claybar my truck once. After you claybar, you will want to wax or polish. If you search this site for claybar, there were a couple of good posts on it. Just be careful not to push to on the clay... you can hurt the paint if you push too hard.

Redbullguy · 05-30-2008, 09:15 PM

Ok guys, this paint is so soft its like butter. Question for you, I'm on a three year lease and at this rate what ever paint is left will look like hell. If I return the truck at the end of the lease, will they try to bust me for excessive wear and tear on the paint?

If you look at the truck wrong, it scratches. I even try to talk nice to it so the truck feels better, but no luck. The paint on this thing is fragile.

I have tried everything that I know about detailing (clay bar, polish, wax, more wax, even more wax).

My 2001 F150 looked showroom new after 7 years, the Tundra paint looks terrible after 5 months.

What to do, what to do........

jtruck618 · 05-30-2008, 10:01 PM

What problems are you having? Scratches? Dullness? Chipping?

Redbullguy · 05-30-2008, 10:11 PM

Scratches, Scratches and more Scratches. It odd areas. Places that really can't be touched by my kids. Two small chips on the hood, one on the roof and one by the front passenger door by the fender.

I'm kind of a clean freak and try my best to take care of our SUV and Truck. I know its a truck and can live with that, but this thing will look really bad in a few years. Planned on keeping the truck when the lease is up, but at this rate, I just don't know.

As for all new cars/trucks having paint issues, our Honda Pilot paint is awesome compared to my 5month old Tundra.

Timberland Mica.

Love the truck, hate the paint. Hated my ford F150, loved the paint. I guess its a trade off???

jtruck618 · 05-30-2008, 10:13 PM

What year was your Ford and what did you hate abou it?

Redbullguy · 05-30-2008, 11:01 PM

2001 F150 Supercrew 4x4 5.4L. Over all it was a good truck. As the miles racked up, the front end started to fall apart, the front brakes, and the coil over plugs. Failure after Failure. If you had to change out coil pack on cyc#7 or #8, you know what I mean when I say that I hated the truck. Worst design ever! The rear brake design on that model was terrible. The e-brake set up would rust and stick heating up the disc. The only way to fix the e-brake was to buy the whole rear brake assemble, they didn't sell just the adjuster.

Over all, I liked the F150 when it was new. No way that thing was designed to last. Never towed anything or off road. Mostly highway miles in New England.

As for the Tundra, It by far is the best truck that has been in my drive way.
The only issue is the paint.

There has to be a fix or a was/polish that can protect the Tundra paint???

jtruck618 · 05-31-2008, 09:10 PM

I was looking at an 08 but not sure about them either. The paint is something you see everyday and I could not deal with an expensive vehicle having paint problems. Much less the condition it will be in years from now.

upscountryboy · 05-31-2008, 10:41 PM

Are the paint problems with the 08's or the 07's or both??

FirstToy · 05-31-2008, 11:47 PM

Okay... now I am looking for a little input. I have an appointment with the Toyota rep next week. Has anyone else talked to the Toyota rep about your paint, and what kind of crap should I be aware of? I think I have my position on this down pretty good, but before I say anything I am looking for what BS they are going to give me.

FirstToy · 06-04-2008, 01:53 PM

Well, I just got back from talking with the Toyota rep.... man am I frustrated... He agreed that I had scratches, but he said since they are from an external source, that it is not Toyota's problem. He said since the paint is not pealing off, bubbling or falling off, it is not a warranty problem with the paint. He said the warranty does not cover paint durability problems. He asked if I took it to a car wash, and I told him no I have only hand washed it. He said uhmmm…. then I ask if he ever takes his Tundra to a car wash, and he said….no… it will scratch it. I was pissed, he would not take it to the paint shop to get their opinion. He would not take it to an independent paint shop for their option. Even if I did take it to an independent paint shop, they would not accept their findings. I said how can you just look at the paint and say it is not a defect in the painting/clear coating process. I said you are not a professional paint person, so how can you make that determination. He said that the scratches are from some external source and that is enough to make that determination. I said so the rain is an external source (it is raining today), so if the rain caused a scratch, then that is acceptable to Toyota. He said basically yes…. that is an external source and if there was dirt or debris in the rain and it scratched the paint that is an external source. He said several times, we do not warranty for durability issues including scratching and chipping. Since that is from an external source…… I am pissed!

MarcDW · 06-04-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstToy

... I am pissed!

There is only one way Toyota will learn: Through your valet.
Don't even use Toyota dealers for tune ups.
Use independent garages. There are a lot of them and they know how to treat the people who pay them.
It does not void the warranty by the way, which by now we know is not worth the paper it is written on!

FirstToy · 06-04-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcDW

There is only one way Toyota will learn: Through your valet.
Don't even use Toyota dealers for tune ups.
Use independent garages. There are a lot of them and they know how to treat the people who pay them.
It does not void the warranty by the way, which by now we know is not worth the paper it is written on!

Yeah... at this point, I do not plan on giving them anymore business. I will talk to Toyota head quarters, but I am sure they will side with the Toyota rep. Just not too happy with the way they are handling it. I can stand 5 feet away from most anything and say there is no problems with it too. The external source bit just killed me.

MarcDW · 06-04-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstToy

...I will talk to Toyota head quarters,...

You get better results talking to your cat or dog!

05-26-2008, 08:37 PM	#76 (permalink)
upscountryboy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SC Posts: 27	I highly RECOMMEND Mother's carnauba wax in the red bottle - - I've had 4 red vehicles now and it does a tremendous job taking out imperfections and acid rain spots...... Had my last truck (Chevy Z71) for almost 10 years and it looked like it rolled off the showroom floor the day I sold it!! __________________ *"Good Stuff - TRUCKS BRING IT!"*

05-31-2008, 10:41 PM	#85 (permalink)
upscountryboy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SC Posts: 27	Paint problems '08 or '07 or both?? Are the paint problems with the 08's or the 07's or both?? __________________ *"Good Stuff - TRUCKS BRING IT!"*

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05-26-2008, 10:56 PM	#77 (permalink)
jtruck618 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 331	That truck is a true classic UPS. In 10-15 years I think it will be a hot truck for restoring. Would love to find a low mileage one to hang onto.

05-30-2008, 09:15 PM	#79 (permalink)
Redbullguy Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 6	Ok guys, this paint is so soft its like butter. Question for you, I'm on a three year lease and at this rate what ever paint is left will look like hell. If I return the truck at the end of the lease, will they try to bust me for excessive wear and tear on the paint? If you look at the truck wrong, it scratches. I even try to talk nice to it so the truck feels better, but no luck. The paint on this thing is fragile. I have tried everything that I know about detailing (clay bar, polish, wax, more wax, even more wax). My 2001 F150 looked showroom new after 7 years, the Tundra paint looks terrible after 5 months. What to do, what to do........

05-30-2008, 10:01 PM	#80 (permalink)
jtruck618 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 331	What problems are you having? Scratches? Dullness? Chipping?

05-30-2008, 10:11 PM	#81 (permalink)
Redbullguy Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 6	Scratches, Scratches and more Scratches. It odd areas. Places that really can't be touched by my kids. Two small chips on the hood, one on the roof and one by the front passenger door by the fender. I'm kind of a clean freak and try my best to take care of our SUV and Truck. I know its a truck and can live with that, but this thing will look really bad in a few years. Planned on keeping the truck when the lease is up, but at this rate, I just don't know. As for all new cars/trucks having paint issues, our Honda Pilot paint is awesome compared to my 5month old Tundra. Timberland Mica. Love the truck, hate the paint. Hated my ford F150, loved the paint. I guess its a trade off???

05-30-2008, 10:13 PM	#82 (permalink)
jtruck618 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 331	What year was your Ford and what did you hate abou it?

05-30-2008, 11:01 PM	#83 (permalink)
Redbullguy Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 6	2001 F150 Supercrew 4x4 5.4L. Over all it was a good truck. As the miles racked up, the front end started to fall apart, the front brakes, and the coil over plugs. Failure after Failure. If you had to change out coil pack on cyc#7 or #8, you know what I mean when I say that I hated the truck. Worst design ever! The rear brake design on that model was terrible. The e-brake set up would rust and stick heating up the disc. The only way to fix the e-brake was to buy the whole rear brake assemble, they didn't sell just the adjuster. Over all, I liked the F150 when it was new. No way that thing was designed to last. Never towed anything or off road. Mostly highway miles in New England. As for the Tundra, It by far is the best truck that has been in my drive way. The only issue is the paint. There has to be a fix or a was/polish that can protect the Tundra paint???

05-31-2008, 09:10 PM	#84 (permalink)
jtruck618 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 331	I was looking at an 08 but not sure about them either. The paint is something you see everyday and I could not deal with an expensive vehicle having paint problems. Much less the condition it will be in years from now.

05-31-2008, 11:47 PM	#86 (permalink)
FirstToy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 512	Okay... now I am looking for a little input. I have an appointment with the Toyota rep next week. Has anyone else talked to the Toyota rep about your paint, and what kind of crap should I be aware of? I think I have my position on this down pretty good, but before I say anything I am looking for what BS they are going to give me.

06-04-2008, 01:53 PM	#87 (permalink)
FirstToy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 512	Well, I just got back from talking with the Toyota rep.... man am I frustrated... He agreed that I had scratches, but he said since they are from an external source, that it is not Toyota's problem. He said since the paint is not pealing off, bubbling or falling off, it is not a warranty problem with the paint. He said the warranty does not cover paint durability problems. He asked if I took it to a car wash, and I told him no I have only hand washed it. He said uhmmm…. then I ask if he ever takes his Tundra to a car wash, and he said….no… it will scratch it. I was pissed, he would not take it to the paint shop to get their opinion. He would not take it to an independent paint shop for their option. Even if I did take it to an independent paint shop, they would not accept their findings. I said how can you just look at the paint and say it is not a defect in the painting/clear coating process. I said you are not a professional paint person, so how can you make that determination. He said that the scratches are from some external source and that is enough to make that determination. I said so the rain is an external source (it is raining today), so if the rain caused a scratch, then that is acceptable to Toyota. He said basically yes…. that is an external source and if there was dirt or debris in the rain and it scratched the paint that is an external source. He said several times, we do not warranty for durability issues including scratching and chipping. Since that is from an external source…… I am pissed!

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