Toyota Paint Problems

[aquadatafl]

I used to do body work. You can't spray clearcoat on a dry paint job. The whole vehicle needs to be sanded, repainted, and then the clearcoat is sprayed on while the paint is still tacky. Nothing much we can do about the paint except clay bar (every 6 months), wax every 2-3 months depending on weather, and keep it clean. Until Toyota comes out with a recall and free paint job, we're screwed.

[JackBear]

Originally Posted by FirstToy

I have been reading tons of blogs about thin paint, paint scratches, paint chips and some temporary solutions (wax and sealants), but what is Toyota doing about it? I have only had my 08 Tundra for 45 days and I have only washed it 3 times, and I have small scratches showing up everywhere. I had my GMC for 4 years and only had a couple of scratches in it when I traded it in. I took it my Tundra to the dealer, and they have one excuse after another... but not one admittance about a non-durable paint product. Other then the paint, I have no complaints. What do we do?

I have talked to them direct and they really didn't say alot. It's just a grin and bare it I guess

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by aquadatafl

I used to do body work. You can't spray clearcoat on a dry paint job. The whole vehicle needs to be sanded, repainted, and then the clearcoat is sprayed on while the paint is still tacky. Nothing much we can do about the paint except clay bar (every 6 months), wax every 2-3 months depending on weather, and keep it clean. Until Toyota comes out with a recall and free paint job, we're screwed.

Thanks.. You confirmed what I put out. You're the 3rd person that said that. I stick to it.

[TndraCru]

I just noticed the other day that the paint on the inside of the driver side door is warn off! It must be from when I get in and out of the truck my shoe must scrape it.

I'll post pics tonight, but the paint looks really thin.

[jtruck618]

Im not thinking highly of the Tundra's paint at this point. I do not want this problem when I purchase one. Looking good is a must.

[FirstToy]

aquadatafl... you said you worked in a body shop. So if... if I was to repaint my Tundra in a year or so.. lets hope not.. what does it take to paint over water based paint with an oil based paint? I guess... does it have to go all the way down to the metal?

[aquadatafl]

I've been out of the body work/paint business for about 3 years now. We did not use or see water based paint at that time (it may have been out there, but it wasn't popular). Since water based paint is, well, made primarily of water, I don't believe there should be any type of reaction. If there is a problem, the painter you go to will only have to apply a sealer (gray - like a primer, but made to stop any contamination between the paints) before applying the base coat of paint. It is definitely a non-issue with today's advanced paint products.

Assuming there is no rust, dents, dings, etc. All that is done on a repaint is to sand the clear coat a little (with fine grit sandpaper) in order to allow the new paint to be able to "grab" on and stick to the old surface. After prepping (sanding, taping, etc.), a couple of basecoats are sprayed, then a couple of clear coats. After all is dry, you're good to go. (There are many steps that can be added depending on what condition the truck was in and how "nice" you want it to turn out).

[FirstToy]

That is good to hear.. thanks! I just wish Toyota would just start sealing the paint at the factory or... add additional clear coats to help make the paint more durable. Something away....

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by aquadatafl

I've been out of the body work/paint business for about 3 years now. We did not use or see water based paint at that time (it may have been out there, but it wasn't popular). Since water based paint is, well, made primarily of water, I don't believe there should be any type of reaction. If there is a problem, the painter you go to will only have to apply a sealer (gray - like a primer, but made to stop any contamination between the paints) before applying the base coat of paint. It is definitely a non-issue with today's advanced paint products.

Assuming there is no rust, dents, dings, etc. All that is done on a repaint is to sand the clear coat a little (with fine grit sandpaper) in order to allow the new paint to be able to "grab" on and stick to the old surface. After prepping (sanding, taping, etc.), a couple of basecoats are sprayed, then a couple of clear coats. After all is dry, you're good to go. (There are many steps that can be added depending on what condition the truck was in and how "nice" you want it to turn out).

Aquad thanks for the info. Great post.

[shadyshanobi]

have any of you noticed the rust all over the rear axle? i just i would expect it to rust but mines getting pretty bad after only having the truck for 7 months

[jtruck618]

Is this something a guy should paint on a new truck to avoid the rusting? If so, what kind of paint would be best to use. I remember years ago I used some sort of special spray paint to use on the wheel wells and axles of a Ford Ranger Splash which I put in some shows. It was flat paint and had some texture. Stayed on until I sold it with about 150,000 miles on it. Not sure what it was called but I remember buying it at Autozone.

[FirstToy]

uhmm... I have never heard of that before??? Do you live/drive where there is a lot of salt or road deicer?

[Mickey]

It was some kind of undercoat spray can. That gave texture and sealed the paint. The problem the area had to be really clean because the area you sprayed sealed whatever was there i.e. salt, dirt etc.

[shadyshanobi]

unfortunately yes. i live right on the boarder of wisconsin and there was alot of salt on the roads this year. but my relatives have gm suv's and i'm pretty sure that there is nothing like mine. especially since theirs is a year and three years old

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by shadyshanobi

unfortunately yes. i live right on the boarder of wisconsin and there was alot of salt on the roads this year. but my relatives have gm suv's and i'm pretty sure that there is nothing like mine. especially since theirs is a year and three years old

I agree with you that rust shouldn'r be an issue at all. SOmeone definitely dropped the ball on this. Toyota needs to nipped this in the butt and do the right thing for those of you out there that have this issue. I'm in agreement against Toyota on this. No one wants rust within the 5 years they have a new vehicle. I know everyone wants a sharp looking truck that's dependable. In some of the posts Toyota dealerships have stepped up to fix this.