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Old 04-16-2010, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tundra air pump problem .... HELP !!!

I have a 2008 Tundra with 61k miles
It is at the dealership now.
Dealer says it needs (2) air pumps and valve set.
Cost is $5,800.
Dealer says my Tundra is out of warranty and I will have to pay the total cost.
Has anyone had same problem and this non-warranty reply?
Did anyone get Toyota to cover the costs? If so, can you give me the details so I can go back to Toyota with ammo.
I am desperate and need your help !!!
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you service at the dealership?
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Quite honestly, were the hell did they get that price? If you are replacing both air pumps you need 2 clamps at 2.31 each, 2 pumps at 1112.40 each, an emiision control valve set at 475.74. Warranty time is 4 hours, CP time is normally 1.4 times that so 5.6 hours. So that is 2705.16 in parts before tax, so they charge about 550 per hour? Or they really over estimated the time or they quoted too many parts.
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Ditto what n8 said. You are getting hosed on that quote. Take it to another dealer or another mechanic if you are paying for it.

There are people under warranty who can't get it covered under warranty.
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I know something about engines, but apparently not enough....what does an air pump do on our trucks, and why is it so expensive?
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The air pump pumps air...haha Into the exhuast system so that the cats can do their job more efficiently

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As emission control strategies grew more sophisticated and effective, the amount of unburned and partially-burned fuel in the exhaust stream shrank, and particularly when the catalytic converter was introduced, the function of secondary air injection shifted. Rather than being a primary emission control device, the secondary air injection system was adapted to support the efficient function of the catalytic converter. The original air injection point became known as the upstream injection point. When the engine is cold, air injected at this point cleans up the extra-rich exhaust and raises the temperature of the exhaust so as to bring the catalytic converter to operating temperature quickly. Once the engine is warm, air is injected to the downstream location — the catalytic converter itself — to assist with catalysis of unburned hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide.

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If it an emission control device, it should be covered by the 10 year, 120,000 mile emissions warranty.
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Please post your pump failure info in this thread.

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If it an emission control device, it should be covered by the 10 year, 120,000 mile emissions warranty.
These are not SULEV vehicles, what 10/120 are you referring to?
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CA and Fed both require an emissions warranty for all light duty vehicles. The Federal rule may be different, like 100,000 miles, but still longer than the basic vehicle warranty.
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The federal emmisions warranty is 2 year 24 months, CA is 36 months 36k miles. Certian components are longer, like the emmisions control valve set required for this one is 7/70 in CA, but not the pumps. But he is also in LA, not under the CA warranty
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From the TSB:

APPLICABLE WARRANTY
• This repair is covered under the Toyota Federal Emission Warranty. This warranty is in effect
for 36 months or 36,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s in-service date.
• Op Code EG9023: For California specification vehicles sold, registered, and operated in
California, Connecticut (starting with ’08 MY), Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania (starting
with ’08 MY), Rhode Island (starting with ’08 MY), and Vermont, this repair is covered under
the California Emission Warranty. This warranty is in effect for 36 months or 50,000 miles,
whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s in-service date.
• Op Code EG8035 or EG9024: For California specification vehicles sold, registered, and
operated in California, Connecticut (starting with ’08 MY), Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania
(starting with ’08 MY), Rhode Island (starting with ’08 MY), and Vermont, this repair is covered
under the California Emission Warranty. This warranty is in effect for 84 months or 70,000
miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s in-service date.
• Warranty application is limited to occurrence of the specified condition described in this
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So what? Because he's out of warranty, he has to front the high cost of repair for a part that is obviously defective enough to warrant a wide-spread Bulletin?

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This makes little sense. Is the CA emissions warranty 36/50k or 84/70k months? I think this has all changed in the last few years. At least some components are required to be covered by the Feds (maybe just the cats) for much longer. Ill have to look at the warranty book again.
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