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Old 01-17-2013, 12:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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08 Tundra going dead in less than 24 hours......

Hello. I am looking for some serious help. Sorry the info may be long, but I want you to know exactly history and problem that has been going on for almost 4 years.

I have a 2008 tundra CM. Bought it brand new. 3 months after buying I had installed aftermarket stereo. Done professionally. Nothing crazy: head unit, 2 amps, and subs. Door speakers too.

About 2 years after install i got a dead battery. No big deal. I live in Florida, truck is always outside. Replaced battery, everything was fine again.

Well, for last 3.5-4 years I replace a battery every few months. year at most. Jumps instantly by just touching jumpers to battery. But according to battery shop, batter is fine, just needed a little charge

I have had AAA out to me a dozen times. Had it at there shop. Had it to my local truck customizing shop 3-4 times with this issue. Toyot twice and they are worthless. They open my doo see the aftermarket stereo and say that is problem.

I have had numerous mechanics do draw tests and nothing out of ordinary for draws. I had stereo completely ripped out 3 months ago, and reinstalled by a different stereo shop (they do high end stuff). 3 months later and I have dead battery in morning.

All people say it must be something internally deep inside. I have no clue!!!!!

I am a firefighter and work 24 hour shifts. Now when I go to leave work my truck is dead everytime. AAA says battery is fine but has electrical problem somewhere. No draws out of the ordinary.

Can anyone help or have suggestions???? I am so fed up!!!

Thanks and sorry for lengthy problem
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Re: 08 Tundra going dead in less than 24 hours......

Do u no how many amps your alternator is? Cause it seems like something isn't recharging ur battery, it could b a small alt, short & even not driving enough to recharge tha bat. Low end amps on the alts in these truck r 100amps, high end r 150a I think even 170a now.

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how can I check to know what amperage it is? It is a 2008 Crewmax 5.7L
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Have you tried completely disconnecting the sound system?
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I know this is a silly question, but worth a shot. Where is your amp remote wire hooked to? Have you confirmed that when you turn your radio/truck off, that your amp(s) turn off?

Also, why don't you pull the fuse for the radio for a few days, and see what happens? I don't know anything about that stuff, but I suppose it is possible that something in the HU itself is hosed, and somehow draws more power than it needs when the truck is off

I can't believe that there is an issue with the truck or its electronics, since your problem started when the stereo was installed. Since it was reinstalled by someone else, my stupid guess would be a bad head unit, and maybe eliminating the remote amp turn on wire/connection. (either leaving the remote turned on, or somehow continuing to draw power after your truck is off).


Edit- oops, nevermind, I just reread your post and your problem didn't start until a couple years after the stereo install. Either way, I'd start the troubleshooting with the amp and hu.
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You may have a relay stuck on - happens alot.
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Re: 08 Tundra going dead in less than 24 hours......

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how can I check to know what amperage it is? It is a 2008 Crewmax 5.7L
The only way I no how to check which alt u have is call the dealer n tell em u nd a new one n give em ur vin. If somebody else knows a better way let us know. But the othe post make good points u nd to check out also. Make sure everything turns off when the truck is off, like stereo n amps

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The audio guy tested all equipment plugged in and unplugged. No real change in draw of power. Nothing unusual.

I have also had a relay switch installed to make sure all power shuts off.

I checked tonight. When I shut off truck or the head unit, all amps are off. No power lights are on

Audio guy said he thinks it is deeper in truck.

BTW, this problem is intermittent. One morning truck is dead. Then could have 3,5, 10 days normal. Then day 11 is dead. I drive same distance everyday.

Does this additional info help? Any suggestions?
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Relays not for the radio, but the truck itself. Put you hand on them after it sits several hours - find the one that warm or hot - bingo stuck relay.

Look under hood
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Where can I look to find those relays to see if they are warm or hot? Are the in fuse box? Or located somewhere else?
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Under the hood in the fuse box driver side. i think there are 4 of them look at cover it will show you what are relays
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Update on situation:

So I drove to work yesterday. It is about a 30-40 minute ride on highway.

I felt relays about 2-3 hours after drive and truck cooled. None of the relays were warm or hot. I also shut off and made sure all things were off: AC, lights, stereo etc...

12 hours later from time of arrival at work I started truck. It started up fine. I let it run for 15 min or so.

Another 12 hours later, in the morning, I started truck again. No issue. Started up.

Then one hour from that when I was going to leave work, the truck would not start. Just the clicking.

I turned radio off when I got to work. All amp power was off too. No power lights on

When truck started up in morning the radio turned on by itself. I did not turn on radio on manually like I did when I shut it off

Anyone with ideas. Tried everything you guys suggested so far but no luck. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
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It doesn't seem likely it is the audio system unless it has a short. Even if it were to stay on with the truck off, it shouldn't drain the battery in an hour.

I would still completely disconnect it. Try that for some time and see if the problem continues. It there is an intermittent short in the audio system, it might not show up during a quick test.

I would still guess it is something else, charging or maybe the PATS system...??

It would also be interesting to know the voltages involved in each situation.
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Re: 08 Tundra going dead in less than 24 hours......

How far do u drive to at 1 time? Did u check the alternator size?

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My usual driving is mainly city and is usually 20 minute intervals before turning on and off truck

When I drive to the fire department( every 4th) day, it is a 40 minute ride but my truck then sits for 24 hours.

Still trying to find alternator size. Will call toyota today at some point. Will update
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