AEM intake

[amledesma]

Thinking of installing a AEM Brute Force Intake in my 08 Crewmax. Any feedback good or bad? Thanks

[BigZ88]

I just ordered one for a local guy for his 07.5 Duramax... he LOVES it!

[2008_CrewMax]

AEM? Why??

[BigZ88]

they are extremely high quality, and have a dry filter...

[2008_CrewMax]

AEM, extremely high quality? Seems like an oxymoron.

[BigZ88]

um... care to explain? I've NEVER seen a complaint about any AEM products. Them and Iceman were probabaly the innovators of cold air intakes being mass produced.... mandrel bent tubing, and probably more R&D than any other brand.

[2008_CrewMax]

Common weaknesses in AEM's Cold Air Intake system relate to weaknesses in the filter flange. Other common complaints relate to the quality of the filter itself (it's not always a K&N). While all CAI filters get dirty far more easily then the stock set-up, the filter provided in the AEM kit was reported to be particularly weak and fragile. Common complaints relate to the filter flange itself. This can be particularly troublesome considering that replacement filters for these units can cost as much as $100. I've also heard complaints about the quality of the aluminum itself. Some people reported that compared to other cold air intakes, AEM's are made of a much thinner aluminum. For those who constantly work on their car, this can be a headache as the intake requires constant removal.

[BigZ88]

well...that's all new to me after being in the business and aftermarket world for years. Not to mention AEM is the manufacturer for NISMO and MOPAR just re-badged. I just have trouble believing it.

and way to just copy that off of ONE website... and a website dedicated to street racing....very credible!
SRO REVIEWS > AEM COLD AIR INTAKE

I still say AEM is of the upmost quality...especially if it is being used by OEM tuners...

edit: Also, since AEM went to their dry filter, they dont seem to have any complaints that I can locate relating to popped MAF's... and yes K&N does have crap all over denying this is a cause, but...seems pretty common. Not that I think K&N is a bad or shoddy company because I've used their filters on every vehicle I've ever owned, and was considering it for my truck until I started looking around and found the dry AEM.

[2008_CrewMax]

Originally Posted by BigZ88

well...that's all new to me after being in the business and aftermarket world for years. Not to mention AEM is the manufacturer for NISMO and MOPAR just re-badged. I just have trouble believing it.

and way to just copy that off of ONE website... and a website dedicated to street racing....very credible!
SRO REVIEWS > AEM COLD AIR INTAKE

I still say AEM is of the upmost quality...especially if it is being used by OEM tuners...

edit: Also, since AEM went to their dry filter, they dont seem to have any complaints that I can locate relating to popped MAF's... and yes K&N does have crap all over denying this is a cause, but...seems pretty common. Not that I think K&N is a bad or shoddy company because I've used their filters on every vehicle I've ever owned, and was considering it for my truck until I started looking around and found the dry AEM.

who cares if i copied off an article? If it proves my point.

Just seems like a waste to go with a honda civic focused brand when much better brands are out there

[amledesma]

Well I was asked by AEM if they can install a Brute Force intake on my truck for a test. They said the magic words "FREE". It's not a for sure thing I said I would think about it. So I can to all of you wise Tundra owners for some advice... Thanks for your help

[2008_CrewMax]

Originally Posted by amledesma

Well I was asked by AEM if they can install a Brute Force intake on my truck for a test. They said the magic words "FREE". It's not a for sure thing I said I would think about it. So I can to all of you wise Tundra owners for some advice... Thanks for your help

well in that case go for it! Let us know how it works, immediate and long term "effects" etc.

[BigZ88]

hahaha.... just because the import sector brought the CAI to its current status, doesn't make AEM a honda-civic focused brand. You have a negative feeling about AEM because the import world brought their name to be as big as they are. You know K&N makes a cai for a civic too right?!

And I called you out for the ONE site because it was obvious that you googled desperately for something after I asked for proof. It was one of the first results searching for "AEM problems".... I guarantee you can find SOMEONE complaining about just about ANY product ever made by looking on google. It really doesn't prove anything as I was unable to find anything else about their products being defective.

The truth about AEM is that they got their start making cold air intakes, and were one of a handful of companies making them in the begining until everyone realized they could slap a filter on a tube and call it their own. Many do not put forth the effort into R&D that AEM does as a company. Take for example their V2 style intakes... that is some serious engineering. Not to mention, they have continuous improvement on products as can be seen in the iterations of Brute Force intakes on diesels. They now have an entire line developed to work better with Diesel engines. So to tell you the truth, I'd rather put my money into a product developed by the leader in the CAI world. I'd probably only go with something else could they prove they have some technology or reason it is better, or if i did serious off-roading and wanted something like AFE, which put's the filter in a box to protect it further.

Or perhaps the reason I have more of an appreciation for a company like AEM is because I myself am a mechanical engineer and know what goes into developing and bringing a product to market.

To wrap it up, you can have an ignorant view on AEM based on the type of vehicles they began modifying (extremely high tech cars, for their time, with small displacement motors that took some very creative methods to extract the most power possible), but I'll be informed and not biased by any misconceptions.

[2008_CrewMax]

Originally Posted by BigZ88

hahaha.... just because the import sector brought the CAI to its current status, doesn't make AEM a honda-civic focused brand. You have a negative feeling about AEM because the import world brought their name to be as big as they are. You know K&N makes a cai for a civic too right?!

And I called you out for the ONE site because it was obvious that you googled desperately for something after I asked for proof. It was one of the first results searching for "AEM problems".... I guarantee you can find SOMEONE complaining about just about ANY product ever made by looking on google. It really doesn't prove anything as I was unable to find anything else about their products being defective.

The truth about AEM is that they got their start making cold air intakes, and were one of a handful of companies making them in the begining until everyone realized they could slap a filter on a tube and call it their own. Many do not put forth the effort into R&D that AEM does as a company. Take for example their V2 style intakes... that is some serious engineering. Not to mention, they have continuous improvement on products as can be seen in the iterations of Brute Force intakes on diesels. They now have an entire line developed to work better with Diesel engines. So to tell you the truth, I'd rather put my money into a product developed by the leader in the CAI world. I'd probably only go with something else could they prove they have some technology or reason it is better, or if i did serious off-roading and wanted something like AFE, which put's the filter in a box to protect it further.

Or perhaps the reason I have more of an appreciation for a company like AEM is because I myself am a mechanical engineer and know what goes into developing and bringing a product to market.

To wrap it up, you can have an ignorant view on AEM based on the type of vehicles they began modifying (extremely high tech cars, for their time, with small displacement motors that took some very creative methods to extract the most power possible), but I'll be informed and not biased by any misconceptions.

I got it from a website that is un-biased. They do general tests and comparisons.

Dont be mad because its devastating to your case.

I am not saying AEM is BAD, i never once its its BAD, just why would you go that route instead of a better made product?

The guy who posted this even told AEM he'd think about it and they offered it for FREE, should tell you something?

I understand some AEM intake's use K&N Filters.

You can't just appreciate a company because you understand what it takes to make a CAI, in that case you should have the same exact appreciation for every company out there. Not to mention you contradict yourself by saying you know what goes into making one, yet everyone realized you could "slap a filter on a tube and call it their own."

My view on AEM is not by any means ignorant. Don't be mad cause your company installs lower end intakes, its really not a big deal.

But when i present proof of a company who has both good and bad to say about AEM, and you dont appreciate the bad, dont get all pissy. AEM will do its job, while using cheap thin less-durable products than the competition.

[BigZ88]

Originally Posted by 2008_CrewMax

I got it from a website that is un-biased. They do general tests and comparisons.

Dont be mad because its devastating to your case.

I am not saying AEM is BAD, i never once its its BAD, just why would you go that route instead of a better made product?

The guy who posted this even told AEM he'd think about it and they offered it for FREE, should tell you something?

I understand some AEM intake's use K&N Filters.

You can't just appreciate a company because you understand what it takes to make a CAI, in that case you should have the same exact appreciation for every company out there. Not to mention you contradict yourself by saying you know what goes into making one, yet everyone realized you could "slap a filter on a tube and call it their own."

My view on AEM is not by any means ignorant. Don't be mad cause your company installs lower end intakes, its really not a big deal.

But when i present proof of a company who has both good and bad to say about AEM, and you dont appreciate the bad, dont get all pissy. AEM will do its job, while using cheap thin less-durable products than the competition.

anything from a street racing website is not devastating... trust me, it's just internet crap

I doubt OEM tuners would choose a product that wasn't top quality if they are going to back it up with a warranty from the factory.

If you look around there are LOTS of companies that are willing to send a product to someone, or have someone come to their facility to have a product installed FOR FREE to do some testing on it.... that really means they are a GOOD company trying to get REAL WORLD results. So you know, magnaflow, volant, and others are currently looking for vehicles to receive free products.... sorry you can't understand that.

I do have the appreciation for them based on the products they make...and I have the same appreciation for any company that makes a quality product. however, what i was saying is that once everyone saw how to make a CAI (based off AEM) then, they just took a tube and slapped a filter on it.... there was no contradiction in my statement, you just misunderstood.

My company installs and sells anything a customer wants as long it is something I feel is a quality product. AEM, K&N, AFE....etc. are all quality and I would have no problem going with any of their products if my customer felt better about the name or the product for some reason.

and you keep bashing AEM's product based on ONE website. I get pissy because alot of times on forums people get ONE opinion that they take to be the be all end all, when that one person's opinion is only based of off one other opinion they read on the internet. I want people to be informed...PERIOD.

Now, I choose to not argue anymore, and you may go on and contradict anything else you want. I've stated all my points, and people will draw from it whatever they want. The fact that we've argued this so much will likely put people off more about the two of us than any product.

[2008_CrewMax]

Originally Posted by BigZ88

anything from a street racing website is not devastating... trust me, it's just internet crap

I doubt OEM tuners would choose a product that wasn't top quality if they are going to back it up with a warranty from the factory.

If you look around there are LOTS of companies that are willing to send a product to someone, or have someone come to their facility to have a product installed FOR FREE to do some testing on it.... that really means they are a GOOD company trying to get REAL WORLD results. So you know, magnaflow, volant, and others are currently looking for vehicles to receive free products.... sorry you can't understand that.

I do have the appreciation for them based on the products they make...and I have the same appreciation for any company that makes a quality product. however, what i was saying is that once everyone saw how to make a CAI (based off AEM) then, they just took a tube and slapped a filter on it.... there was no contradiction in my statement, you just misunderstood.

My company installs and sells anything a customer wants as long it is something I feel is a quality product. AEM, K&N, AFE....etc. are all quality and I would have no problem going with any of their products if my customer felt better about the name or the product for some reason.

and you keep bashing AEM's product based on ONE website. I get pissy because alot of times on forums people get ONE opinion that they take to be the be all end all, when that one person's opinion is only based of off one other opinion they read on the internet. I want people to be informed...PERIOD.

Now, I choose to not argue anymore, and you may go on and contradict anything else you want. I've stated all my points, and people will draw from it whatever they want. The fact that we've argued this so much will likely put people off more about the two of us than any product.

I never once stated that AEM is bad, never ever once. I also never said anything bad about companies willing to test out their product on peoples trucks for free, you're not understanding what im saying.

Just why would anyone go with AEM with all the other choices out there?

AEM uses cheaper products to make an intake, doesnt make sense in my head, and apparently 99% of other "truck" guys out there.