Stop The Hemi Bashing

[Siggman]

Originally Posted by tundratalk.net

bs a single cab 5.7 hemi with 392 gears from factory will run 14's stock they get up to 0 to 60 in mid 6s with a intake an programers there mid 5s your tundra is way over rated

My RCSB will do un 6sec 0-60 out of the box. No need to mod

[3ur-fe]

hemi 6.1 is nice...5.7 is piece of shit

[Spedly]

Ok I have been lurking here for a few days reading up oin the tundras, as we are getting ready to take delivery of an 08 5.7. For some reason I felt the need to sign up today and clear up alot of the mis-information in this thread. Let me start by saying I have had my rc/sb 4x4 hemi since 2004 and have been through what you guys are going through with lack of mods. I test drove a tundra for the first time a few weeks ago and all I could say is WOW! The 3rd gen ram doesn not even copmpare. Everything about the tundra seems so much better then the dodge. Now to clear up some of these posts.

1: Do not try to adjust map voltage to gewt a leaner AFR as xhemi stated. It is a good way to kill a trans. The trans bases its line pressure off of readings from the map sensor. Been there done that.

2: A hemi ram will not do 155mph stock by doing the "key trick". The key trick unlocks the converter. Alot of the heads/cam hemis don't even have the power to overcome the slipping converter to do 155 with the key trick. You would be better off pulling the abs pump fuse that also disables the speedo and limiter. The speedo only goes to 120 so if your going for 155 you would need gps anyways.

3. to the guy that said no hemi can hang with the that turbo chebby...KRC did a truck with a single turbo 5.7 that runs 11's..owner goes by ColtSteel.

4.Whomever said Matt(hemi450) ran high 13's with boltons. He ran 13.2 just before he blew his trans. Remeber his truck is an 03 so there is no tune available. Thats also why he has such a small cam in his stroker.

5. No question Stock vs. stock the tundra will walk all over a hemi. However it seems like the hemi guys are more willing to cut weight. It would be a great place for you guys to start picking up time. I'd like to see what a 2wd std. cab tundra would do if you dropped the spare/tailgate/pass. seat/jack/ front swaybar and threw on some DR's. I'm pretty sure you could beat most of the bolton/cam only hemi guys with an otherwise stock truck.

At the end of the day I think they are both great vehicles. I'll be keeping my hemi as I have too much into it at this point, but I will be looking forward to spending some seat time in the tundra as well.


Edit: Forgot to add for those that say the Hemi is a POS Mexican motor. Mine has almost 600 1/4 mile passes on it and 45k miles without a single problem. I've had the heads off after 30k miles to change valvesprings and everything was just as it should be. I'll be pulling them again in a few weeks to inspect while I'm swapping cams again. I suspect all will be well this time too. You can make any engine live. Its all in the tune and maintanance.

Its compitition that makes us all faster. If you can't respect a a vehicle that is fast regardless of brand your not a true gearhead.

[ramoine]

Originally Posted by Spedly

Ok I have been lurking here for a few days reading up oin the tundras, as we are getting ready to take delivery of an 08 5.7. For some reason I felt the need to sign up today and clear up alot of the mis-information in this thread. Let me start by saying I have had my rc/sb 4x4 hemi since 2004 and have been through what you guys are going through with lack of mods. I test drove a tundra for the first time a few weeks ago and all I could say is WOW! The 3rd gen ram doesn not even copmpare. Everything about the tundra seems so much better then the dodge. Now to clear up some of these posts.

1: Do not try to adjust map voltage to gewt a leaner AFR as xhemi stated. It is a good way to kill a trans. The trans bases its line pressure off of readings from the map sensor. Been there done that.

2: A hemi ram will not do 155mph stock by doing the "key trick". The key trick unlocks the converter. Alot of the heads/cam hemis don't even have the power to overcome the slipping converter to do 155 with the key trick. You would be better off pulling the abs pump fuse that also disables the speedo and limiter. The speedo only goes to 120 so if your going for 155 you would need gps anyways.

3. to the guy that said no hemi can hang with the that turbo chebby...KRC did a truck with a single turbo 5.7 that runs 11's..owner goes by ColtSteel.

4.Whomever said Matt(hemi450) ran high 13's with boltons. He ran 13.2 just before he blew his trans. Remeber his truck is an 03 so there is no tune available. Thats also why he has such a small cam in his stroker.

5. No question Stock vs. stock the tundra will walk all over a hemi. However it seems like the hemi guys are more willing to cut weight. It would be a great place for you guys to start picking up time. I'd like to see what a 2wd std. cab tundra would do if you dropped the spare/tailgate/pass. seat/jack/ front swaybar and threw on some DR's. I'm pretty sure you could beat most of the bolton/cam only hemi guys with an otherwise stock truck.

At the end of the day I think they are both great vehicles. I'll be keeping my hemi as I have too much into it at this point, but I will be looking forward to spending some seat time in the tundra as well.


Edit: Forgot to add for those that say the Hemi is a POS Mexican motor. Mine has almost 600 1/4 mile passes on it and 45k miles without a single problem. I've had the heads off after 30k miles to change valvesprings and everything was just as it should be. I'll be pulling them again in a few weeks to inspect while I'm swapping cams again. I suspect all will be well this time too. You can make any engine live. Its all in the tune and maintanance.

Its compitition that makes us all faster. If you can't respect a a vehicle that is fast regardless of brand your not a true gearhead.

Welcome to the forum !
Great 1'st post , thanks .

[Mickey]

Originally Posted by Spedly

Ok I have been lurking here for a few days reading up oin the tundras, as we are getting ready to take delivery of an 08 5.7. For some reason I felt the need to sign up today and clear up alot of the mis-information in this thread. Let me start by saying I have had my rc/sb 4x4 hemi since 2004 and have been through what you guys are going through with lack of mods. I test drove a tundra for the first time a few weeks ago and all I could say is WOW! The 3rd gen ram doesn not even copmpare. Everything about the tundra seems so much better then the dodge. Now to clear up some of these posts.

1: Do not try to adjust map voltage to gewt a leaner AFR as xhemi stated. It is a good way to kill a trans. The trans bases its line pressure off of readings from the map sensor. Been there done that.

2: A hemi ram will not do 155mph stock by doing the "key trick". The key trick unlocks the converter. Alot of the heads/cam hemis don't even have the power to overcome the slipping converter to do 155 with the key trick. You would be better off pulling the abs pump fuse that also disables the speedo and limiter. The speedo only goes to 120 so if your going for 155 you would need gps anyways.

3. to the guy that said no hemi can hang with the that turbo chebby...KRC did a truck with a single turbo 5.7 that runs 11's..owner goes by ColtSteel.

4.Whomever said Matt(hemi450) ran high 13's with boltons. He ran 13.2 just before he blew his trans. Remeber his truck is an 03 so there is no tune available. Thats also why he has such a small cam in his stroker.

5. No question Stock vs. stock the tundra will walk all over a hemi. However it seems like the hemi guys are more willing to cut weight. It would be a great place for you guys to start picking up time. I'd like to see what a 2wd std. cab tundra would do if you dropped the spare/tailgate/pass. seat/jack/ front swaybar and threw on some DR's. I'm pretty sure you could beat most of the bolton/cam only hemi guys with an otherwise stock truck.

At the end of the day I think they are both great vehicles. I'll be keeping my hemi as I have too much into it at this point, but I will be looking forward to spending some seat time in the tundra as well.


Edit: Forgot to add for those that say the Hemi is a POS Mexican motor. Mine has almost 600 1/4 mile passes on it and 45k miles without a single problem. I've had the heads off after 30k miles to change valvesprings and everything was just as it should be. I'll be pulling them again in a few weeks to inspect while I'm swapping cams again. I suspect all will be well this time too. You can make any engine live. Its all in the tune and maintanance.

Its compitition that makes us all faster. If you can't respect a a vehicle that is fast regardless of brand your not a true gearhead.

Welcome and enjoy your ride. Post some pics when you can.

[Bankstitan]

ya, even us titan owners eat hemis. just unfortunate that the ram has so many issues. the diesels bad ass though.

also being a tundra forum....u will hear it. brand favortism. i know i have it coming for me being a titan owner, but i dont think i would rag on someone just becuase they own a different truck. open minded people FTW!!!

you go on dodge/ford/chevy forums, you hear jap trucks suck..yada yada. you go on titan/tundra forums, youll see hemi/chevy/ford jokes. Just how it is. in the end as long as you like your truck, why let a few comments bother ya?

[Deznutjob]

Originally Posted by Bankstitan

ya, even us titan owners eat hemis. just unfortunate that the ram has so many issues. the diesels bad ass though.

also being a tundra forum....u will hear it. brand favortism. i know i have it coming for me being a titan owner, but i dont think i would rag on someone just becuase they own a different truck. open minded people FTW!!!

you go on dodge/ford/chevy forums, you hear jap trucks suck..yada yada. you go on titan/tundra forums, youll see hemi/chevy/ford jokes. Just how it is. in the end as long as you like your truck, why let a few comments bother ya?

Trust me bro we get our share of Nissan, Dodge, and Ford guys attempting to bash here. All we do is break out the real facts and they go runnin with their tails between their legs. There are a few of us here that have mole user names on a Titan site and I've seen more than a few threads where all they talk about is how to beat the Tundra! Not baggin on the Titan man, I just like to read stuff.

[ramoine]

Originally Posted by Bankstitan

ya, even us titan owners eat hemis. just unfortunate that the ram has so many issues. the diesels bad ass though.

also being a tundra forum....u will hear it. brand favortism. i know i have it coming for me being a titan owner, but i dont think i would rag on someone just becuase they own a different truck. open minded people FTW!!!

you go on dodge/ford/chevy forums, you hear jap trucks suck..yada yada. you go on titan/tundra forums, youll see hemi/chevy/ford jokes. Just how it is. in the end as long as you like your truck, why let a few comments bother ya?

So you are a Titian owner , and you joined this forum for what ?
I would like to know , because all we talk about here is Tundra's !
thanks , Bill.

[SRT8TUNDRA]

Originally Posted by ramoine

So you are a Titian owner , and you joined this forum for what ?
I would like to know , because all we talk about here is Tundra's !
thanks , Bill.

He's jealous

[Bankstitan]

Originally Posted by ramoine

So you are a Titian owner , and you joined this forum for what ?
I would like to know , because all we talk about here is Tundra's !
thanks , Bill.

i joined well #1 there isnt a rule that said i have to own a tundra to join the forum. if there is, ill leave no problem.
#2...i get bored of vehicles quick and was planning on buying a new truck within 6 months to a year. tudnra was my first choice so i joined to see what the trucks are like, people's experiences with them. i love my titan and wouldn't trade it in for the world. its staying with me till it dies, but i refuse to purchase the nissan/dodge chrysler inbreeds.
#3 to meet new people.
you can see my thread on the new members forum.
anything else i can clear up for ya?

[Bankstitan]

Originally Posted by SRT8TUNDRA

He's jealous

def not the reason

[3ur-fe]

like I said on F150 forum...."don't talk about tundra and my googles search dont send my on your forum"

[ramoine]

Originally Posted by Bankstitan

i joined well #1 there isnt a rule that said i have to own a tundra to join the forum. if there is, ill leave no problem.
#2...i get bored of vehicles quick and was planning on buying a new truck within 6 months to a year. tudnra was my first choice so i joined to see what the trucks are like, people's experiences with them. i love my titan and wouldn't trade it in for the world. its staying with me till it dies, but i refuse to purchase the nissan/dodge chrysler inbreeds.
#3 to meet new people.

anything else i can clear up for ya?

Thanks for your response , and a Big Welcome to you !
If I can help you with any info about the Tundra just ask .

[Bankstitan]

Originally Posted by ramoine

Thanks for your response , and a Big Welcome to you !
If I can help you with any info about the Tundra just ask .

Thanks for the welcome and sure you can help. just share experiences with your truck with plenty of pics.

[Codiac]

Originally Posted by Bankstitan

Thanks for the welcome and sure you can help. just share experiences with your truck with plenty of pics.

Your welcome here as long as you don't start trying to cause trouble. We have had a fair share of other brand owners on here lately just causing trouble. We ban them before they get more than 5 posts up. We are pretty good at picking them out of the crowd now!

So stick around, enjoy the site for what it is intended and please give some useful input on the threads as you see fit.

Thanks

Codiac