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Old 10-15-2007, 07:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Super Springs... Read This

Just installed a set of "Super Springs" and couldn't be happier. One of the few products that actually lives up to 100% of it's claims.

This product not only does a fantastic job of replacing expensive air-ride systems and the leak and compressor problems that go along with them when towing or hauling heavy loads, but the stock ride feels exactly the same with the exception that they eliminate a lot of rear end sway, bed bounce and wheel hop.

I towed my 32 foot, 8,700 pound travel trailer without the weight distribution hitch this weekend, and only used my Reese anti-sway bar to see what would happen. The ride was fantastic! Solid control cornering on tight mountain roads and when passing semi's on two lane highways, and none of the "bouncing ball" feel I'd sometimes get with the air-ride system on my 98 Dodge Ram.

I measured the hitch height before hooking up, and it only dropped 1.5" over stock with nothing on it.

Before I went on my trip I ran down the freeway over a concrete section were the semi's have created "waves". Running over this section the day before set up some pretty serious bed bounce between 65 and 70. With these springs I had zero bounce running the same stretch of freeway. That's worth the price alone ($279.99 plus $45.00 for the mounting kit required for the 07 Tundra.)

I also notice a lot less rear end sway taking some sharp freeway transitions; (40 mph speed limit taken at 67 with dry road conditions.) And this is in a 4x4 with a higher CG! Before I installed the springs I would start to feel uncomfortable hitting this turn at 55 mph. (By the way, I don't advocate everyone doing this because this is how people get killed. I've been road racing cars for over 20 years, and I progressively push the envelope on familiar roads like this when there's no traffic. I don't do it with others in the truck, so if I loose it and crash, I'm not going to be taking others with me.)

The install was very easy. The instructions could have been a little more detailed, and you MUST be careful that the install doesn't crimp, crush or cut your break lines as that would be a very bad scene! I had to hand bend the stock brake line brackets to make sure nothing would rub.

You also need to use a hack saw to remove 1" off the top of each bumper stop so you can install the above axle brackets that hold the springs. You could totally remove the bumpers if you wanted, as you'll never be bottoming out against the frame once you install these babies.

The springs for the 07 Tundra are rated at 3,000 pounds, and work in conjunction with the stock springs. The beauty of these springs are that they don't work like typical helper springs that are "always on" and make your ride uncomfortably hard. These springs are tapered and have rolling shackles that only start working when you add load. They're truly progressive, which means the amount of positive force against the load is proportional to the amount of weight being loaded, so they're like an active air-ride system that's constantly adjusting psi.

Something I had to find out for myself. I tried to have all of the lower shackle bolts facing in, but soon realized I at least had to have the bolt on the forward side of the spring on the driver's side facing out, as the bolt was so long that it would have rubbed against the gas tank skid plate and possibly the gas tank itself, and you don't want that!

So, if you tow or haul heavy loads with your truck, or are just looking for a much more stable ride without a hard feel, bed bounce or wheel hop, then do yourself a favor and check these out!
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great write up, awesome information. Just wanted to clerify, did this dramatically help your bed bounce with no load in the bed?
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Great write up, awesome information. Just wanted to clerify, did this dramatically help your bed bounce with no load in the bed?
Yes, the bed was completely empty and I was not towing. I drove over the same 5 mile stretch of freeway with waves in the concrete, and no major bounce like it did without the Super Springs, just a little shake like you'd see in any truck given the same road conditions.

These things are awesome, and I don't usually get that excited about a product. I have a TRD rear sway bar on order and I'll probably cancel it because I can't imagine it would do that much more than these springs have already done to reduce the rear end sway.

The manufacture touts these springs in their advertising as a 3-in-1 product; a replacement for an Air-Ride system, rear sway bar and helper springs. They're said to improve stability and control by 30%, and they do just that.

A very sweet product!
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Where did you purchase???? I'm interested. Also What size spring they look like they come in many different sizes?
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Cheapest Price I've Found for Super Springs

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Where did you purchase???? I'm interested. Also What size spring they look like they come in many different sizes?
I bought mine at RealTruck.com (Link to Super Springs below)
Super springs self adjusting suspension stabilizers by supersprings for pickup and suv towing and handling

They had the best price at $279.65 for the springs, and $48.45 for the mounting kit required for over the axle installation on the 07 Tundra.

As far as I know there's only one size that works with the new body style 07 Tundra - Model SSA14.

Follow the link above, click on the "Import" tab and use the drop-down under "Super Springs for Specialist Duty" to order the springs for the new 07/08 Tundra. Don't forget you'll need the mounting kit too.

Hey, and check out the installation video while you're on the website, it'll show you how easy it is to install. It's under the video tab.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks for all of the info -- Im going to order these when I get back into the states.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Nice saw the video, looks like a great product, think i found my Christmas present
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just ordered a set for my Tundra. I hope your right and it stops the dreaded bed bounce. I'll let you know after the install.
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Me too

I ordered them too...RunitHard...you should be getting a commission. I will be using a camper, but I got so excited about the potential to help with the bed hop problem, I ordered immediately. I found them at GOT-CHROME.COM for $225.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I ordered them too...RunitHard...you should be getting a commission. I will be using a camper, but I got so excited about the potential to help with the bed hop problem, I ordered immediately. I found them at GOT-CHROME.COM for $225.
When you get ready to mount your springs, check to make sure you were sent the right kit. I ordered mine and the place I bought them from sent me an SSA9 instead of an SSA14. I kind of figured there was something wrong so I went straight to Super Springs tech support and they told me I definitely needed the SSA14 because the shackles were different.

You need to locate the springs so you're able to use the bottom hole in the shackles, not the top. If you use the top you'll be putting too much pre-load on the springs and you'll get a hard ride; meaning harder than the hard ride you already have.

Also, don't forget about the other items I mention in my first post... about turning the one shackle bolt around so it's facing out, instead of in toward the gas tank.

The comment I made about using the top hole in the rear shackles instead of the bottom hole, you can disregard, since that problem was attributed to having the wrong (SSA9) shackles.
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anybody else install these yet? Runithard -- what specific tundra do you have?

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Tundratom,

I've got an 07, Tundra Limited 4x4 double cab with the 5.7 and TRD off-road package.
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Ordered a set today!
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Great post RunItHard, thanks for sharing your experience and install tips. I just picked up my '07 Tundra DoubleCab 4WD SR5 TRD standard bed last week and have been mulling over my suspension options as I will be carrying a pop-up camper in the bed much of the time that has a loaded weight of around 950 pounds. I am not at all a DIY kind of guy and was thinking I would have to pay a mechanic to do the install.

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Old 10-25-2007, 07:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Axle wrap???

Would you know if this would fix an axle wrap issue? This is when The axle under torque or load changes the position and angle of the rear differential, usually noticed as a "thump" or bad shifting coming from the tranny.(even though it's not a tranny issue it feels like one.)
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