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Old 01-14-2013, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Remote Start (which one to get)

Wanting to get a remote start for my 2011 Tundra and i dont know much about them and was wondering which one is a good one to purchase? Thank you
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I just put a Python 574 w/FLCAN bypass in mine and love it do far.

The top company for remote starts is DEI. Their top brands are Viper, Python, and Clifford. All 3 of which are essentially identical and have corresponding models- ie. Python 574 is same as Viper 5704 or Clifford 570.4x

I would highly recommend one of those models because it adds security and has a 2way remote. If you DIY you can pick up the unit for about $180 and FLCAN for about $55. Then you just need some zip ties, a soldering iron, a multi meter and a lot of time to scratch your head and wonder if you're splicing into the correct wires.


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I just put a Python 574 w/FLCAN bypass in mine and love it do far.

The top company for remote starts is DEI. Their top brands are Viper, Python, and Clifford. All 3 of which are essentially identical and have corresponding models- ie. Python 574 is same as Viper 5704 or Clifford 570.4x

I would highly recommend one of those models because it adds security and has a 2way remote. If you DIY you can pick up the unit for about $180 and FLCAN for about $55. Then you just need some zip ties, a soldering iron, a multi meter and a lot of time to scratch your head and wonder if you're splicing into the correct wires.


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I 2nd this. a couple months ago did the viper 5704 and idatalink run with D2D. (same product as FLCAN)

There are a few threads about aftermarket remote starts that have good detail.
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Is there a simple way to plug into the vehicles BUS to limit the soldering?
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I had one installed through Toyota when I bought my used CPO'd...it say's Prestige on the fob, I'm assuming thats the brand. It works great so far. I really like the that it seems to have a really strong signal, works A LONG ways away. Its also very basic, which I prefer. Turns the truck on...and off...thats it!!
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Is there a simple way to plug into the vehicles BUS to limit the soldering?
yes using the one of the better bypass' like the FLCAN and idatalink are the two to look at, IMO.

Look at my threads, i have one showing a spreadsheet of what connections I had to make based on the hardware and firmware I was using.
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Is there a simple way to plug into the vehicles BUS to limit the soldering?
That's what the FLCAN/Idatalink do. They tie into the BUS and immobilizer but you still have to solder connections rather than plug and play. You also have to tie the remote start itself into ignition wires, constant 12v power and ground.

It'a a pretty in depth install but very doable if you take your time and spend plenty of time learning what each connection does and where it goes before you start. Mine was my first and it worked first try. It was also the first time I had even soldered a wire. I probably spent 20-25 hours learning and 8 hours installing. It was kinda fun though and I would do it again.


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I used cu52's spreadsheets and they helped me A LOT. I was going to try to do a Remote Start for Dummies since I dove into it as a dummy. After installing I realized that all the info was in front of my face the whole time. It took me 20 hours worth of making my own spreadsheets and learning all the connections I needed to make before I looked at cu52's spreadsheet again and the light turned on. Basically everything was right there and much more organized and simple than what I was trying to do.

The most important thing is to make sure you get the TL4 firmware flashed on the FLCAN or idatalink. Mine came with TL5 and luckily it worked but it is supposed to be a low success rate. The wiring is also dependent on firmware version. If mine had not worked with TL5 I would have had to have it reflashed and then rewire it to match that firmware.




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stock works well in my 2012..expensive, but original key fob is used.
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Re: Remote Start (which one to get)

Just got the compustart installed works great ...good price....

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I recently installed a DEI Avital 4301 with a PKALL bypass on Amazon for $74. I have spreadsheets and data on the install if you need them. Just havent put a write up together (I wish I had photoshop to make my pictures easier to understand, etc). Cheap and no hassle with finding a shop to load software. If you just want keyless and RS, I'd do it all over again with the Avital I purchased.
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I have had Ultra Starts on several vehicals now with great luck!

http://www.ultrastarters.com/
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I recently installed a DEI Avital 4301 with a PKALL bypass on Amazon for $74. I have spreadsheets and data on the install if you need them. Just havent put a write up together (I wish I had photoshop to make my pictures easier to understand, etc). Cheap and no hassle with finding a shop to load software. If you just want keyless and RS, I'd do it all over again with the Avital I purchased.
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Just thought I would add my 2 cents. I had a viper 2-way starter with the module to communicate with the truck properly installed. I thought it was ok until I unlocked my truck and it beeped 4 times (like when you press the unlock button twice) and all my doors unlocked. Also, with my headlight switch in the auto mode, the headlights didn't shut off when the truck stopped. If you got in the truck after auto starting it and put your foot on the brake the lights didn't go back to auto, they were just off, all of them! Then the next day when I went to start my truck using the autostart it made the alarm in my truck go off (really annoying at 6:30 in the morning.

Anyway after 3 trips and the install guy sourcing another module it finally works properly. I am sure this was a one off thing but I'm not sure. The install guy was really good at attempting to fix it (was bought at Future Shop up here in Ottawa Canada) and I am convinced it wasn't the installers fault but the product.

I just wanted to share my experience with Viper. All my other vehicles have had a Nordic auto starter installed so maybe that was my problem, I should have stuck with what worked for me all a long.
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