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Old 08-13-2007, 11:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Great Mod, only took my 5 minutes to do both and works like a charm, I use my truck for a lot more then commuting, I even pull out shrubs and small tree's with it around my house and the buzzer was bothering me.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yessir!

And.. well, it's an ugly POS... 1971 Camaro. Good eye!

It's my 'someday' car. 'Someday', I'll get off my butt and work on her.
Hey, that car has a LOT of potential...it doesn't look like a POS to me, just a work in progress that's going to be a very slick ride eventually!
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Correct. I work in the oilfield. I spend the majority of my time on roads that previously were travelled by a bulldozer, rock truck, or rig itself. The roads are always rough and I wear my seatbelt for safety plus my job depends on it. My previous comment was directed at the fact that insurance companies can deny claims for disabling safety features on a vehicle. Insurance companies will consider defeating an alarm disabling a safety feature. I asked my agent and verified the question with a claims adjuster who is a friend of mine. He is actually instructed to look for things like that when assessing a vehicle for damages. Insurance companies , while not openly admitting it, look for any reason to deny a coverage or lower their cost on it. The comment I made is in no way an afront to those who choose to do it. To each their own, as such, opinions are the same way.
Thats why insurance companys spend so much time in court. They try to wiggle out of there side of the deal
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Correct. I work in the oilfield. I spend the majority of my time on roads that previously were travelled by a bulldozer, rock truck, or rig itself. The roads are always rough and I wear my seatbelt for safety plus my job depends on it. My previous comment was directed at the fact that insurance companies can deny claims for disabling safety features on a vehicle. Insurance companies will consider defeating an alarm disabling a safety feature. I asked my agent and verified the question with a claims adjuster who is a friend of mine. He is actually instructed to look for things like that when assessing a vehicle for damages. Insurance companies , while not openly admitting it, look for any reason to deny a coverage or lower their cost on it. The comment I made is in no way an afront to those who choose to do it. To each their own, as such, opinions are the same way.
I'm very curious about this. Did your friend give you any logical reason why they would care about that sort of chime?

If you're wearing your seatbelt at the time of an accident, what difference would it make if the alarm indicating non-use wasn't functioning? It's got nothing to do with it because the belt was being worn. It's easy to tell if the seatbelt was used or not...it gets melted slightly where it contacts the various attachments to the frame and/or the buckle and leaves a stripe across the webbing. That's assuming you hit hard enough to cause injury...if you don't hit hard enough to cause injury you're not going to be claiming injuries anyway.

I can see that if someone wasn't wearing their seatbelt, was injured and claimed they were wearing it and insurance company might have an issue, but they're going to know it wasn't being worn anyway by the little telltale on the belt. So they're going to come back and say "you weren't wearing your belt so we're denying your claim because you disabled the chime to tell you to wear it. Granted, if you hadn't disabled the chime and you didn't wear your belt we'd still deny your claim because you ignored the chime." ????? That just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:00 PM   #20 (permalink)
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With the way insurance companies work, I tend to think logic is illegal. I agree with you on the fact that it makes no sense. My favorite complaint has to do with house insurance. Owning a large breed dog in a home lowers attempted breakins by 642%. Do you get a break on insurance for that? No, they increase your insurance or deny from some policy's because of the threat of dogbite....

With regard to the seatbelt chime though. It isn't an interlock being defeated, since the belt still works, however, I asked about that very thing and he said the insurance company could state that you modified the seatbelt mechanism or damaged the internal workings of it if it ever failed. Granted, it never would, but in the event that it did, you might be up shit creek without a paddle if it went to court. Most lawyers don't understand mechanical processes from my experience and logic would fall on deaf ears.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think seat belt and helmet laws are stupid. If ya want to die a tramatic death go for it. If they want to pass a law make it if you are killed its not my fault you died because you did not where your seat belt. By the way I buckle up. Sorry for the rant, just tired of all the people who refuse to take responsibility for there own actions
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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...Sometimes people just feel better on a soapbox, even when there's no debate...
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Sorry I was in mood I guess
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:40 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It's cool. And I wholeheartedly agree.
I grew up ALWAYS wearing a seatbelt. And when I started driving, it was already a law. There's reason to why I repeated myself a lot about making sure people buckle up. I don't want to post a procedure like this if people are going to abuse it and not buckle up. (again, I'm not taking credit for the how-to... I just put it together to be easier to read.)
There are 'some' situations where the chime is a serious annoyance, and certain times it's just illogical.

But, like all things, there is always room for some people to abuse it, and to not buckle up. I just hope that their families will forgive them in an accident.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Please everyone doing the mod, see the edit I added regarding ensuring the airbag is ON.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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seat belt chime

Hello I'm new to the forum and wanted to introduce myself. I've got a Crewmax 4x4 5.7 SR5 on the way. Can't wait. I've gotten tons of useful info so far.
Anyway, the idea I had was to get an extra insert( the "male end") from a salvage yard to go into the reciever housing( where the mods would take place) of the seat belt. This would, in effect, fool the sensor in the housing into "thinking" the belt was buckled and the chime should not go off. Also no mods would be made to the truck.
I don't know if when Toyota redesigned the Tundra if the seatbelts got an upgrade as well, if not then going to a salvage yard and cutting out the passenger seatbelt for the insert "male end" on 04-06 Tundras wouldn't be that big a deal and would only cost a couple of bucks..

Hope the way I explained it makes sense. I can see it in my head but don't know if translates well to the page.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:21 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I wish I had salavge/junk yards with 04-06 Tundras. Dam, I wish there was any Tundras at the junkyards here in Nor Cal
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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If you cant locate a seat belt buckle at the scrap yard... (no surprise there)
Then, I've read that you can possibly get a seat belt extender from the dealer. It's just that.. a male and female buckle end with additional seat belting inbetween.
Problem is, it seems it's another of those secrets that dealers don't always know about themselves and they might tell you that you have to pay (supposed to be free) or that you'll have to bring the fatty with ya... (crock of stuff if you ask me..) etc.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:09 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Chime

Both valid points. Most car companies look for ways to reduce production costs, often they use many of the same parts on several different cars and trucks. It may be possible to get the buckle from tacomas or even earlier tundras. Again I don't know if toyota uses the same buckles for other vehicles but if they did there could be a bunch out there. Anyways just food for thought.
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