Hypergrounding

[algolfer69]

Originally Posted by boweebe

algolfer69, you still watching?...I'm still going to put mine in tomorrow. hehe, and see what happens next

Go for it man. I hope it works. Keep us posted.

[jdbreaux]

http://www.tundranetwork.com/photo/p...3APhoto%3A9840

The lines are blue

[algolfer69]

Check this one out.

Hyper Ground Vehicle Grounding System - Car Audio and Electronics Magazine

Sounds like it may just work. What wires are you getting boweebe?

[jdbreaux]

Originally Posted by boweebe

so your here too? lol. I replied on the other one also

I am everywhere!

BROO HA HA HAHA

[jdbreaux]

Originally Posted by algolfer69

Check this one out.

Hyper Ground Vehicle Grounding System - Car Audio and Electronics Magazine

Sounds like it may just work. What wires are you getting boweebe?

WOO HOO! I've been vindicated.

I had a Rav4 that it made all the difference in but the most noticeable thing with my Tundra is that every once in a while it will idle down so low you think it died.
Really scary coming up to a stop light and you hit the brakes and the sound of the engine stops. "OH CRAP!" Then you realize it is just idled down.


The whole process to making a home made grounding system can be found here:

Build Your Own Electrical Grounding System | tundraheadquarters.com


It was a long article and I didn't feel like retyping it all.

[boweebe]

Your welcome........I'm going with jdbreaux and get some "amp" wire, well I already have it, and just do as he explained on locations where to tagg them on.

[Deznutjob]

Sounds like a crock, but if someone wants to do a before and after dyno that's just about the only real proof.

[boweebe]

thanks for the link to the article algolfer69

[boweebe]

if mpg's really increase on the Tundra, it may be hard to document

[algolfer69]

Originally Posted by boweebe

Your welcome........I'm going with jdbreaux and get some "amp" wire, well I already have it, and just do as he explained on locations where to tagg them on.

Cool man. Like I said before, keep us posted. You got my curiosity up now.

[boweebe]

I'll do it.

[algolfer69]

Originally Posted by boweebe

thanks for the link to the article algolfer69

Any time bro.

[tundrahq]

Originally Posted by Deznutjob

Sounds like a crock, but if someone wants to do a before and after dyno that's just about the only real proof.

The first time I heard about these grounding kits, that was my reaction too. It seems ridiculous that adding a few ground wires to the electrical system would have any real impact, but here are some facts that lend credence to Jeremy's experience.

1. A poor ground results in lower potential difference (i.e. voltage), so the power system has to work harder to generate the proper voltage. Additionally, reducing the resistance in the grounding system (by adding additional wiring) helps increase the potential difference in the system. In other words, you drop the load on the alternator by improving the ground. When you reduce the workload on the alternator, your engine doesn't have to work as hard to turn the crank. That will translate to better fuel economy. The question isn't IF it works, but HOW MUCH will it help?

2. All the electrical devices in your vehicle generate "reactive power." Basically, it's a form of resistance that's created because different electric devices use electricity in different phases. I'll be honest - I missed quite a few of my electrical engineering courses in college - but I will say this with certainty: The effect on a small system (like a car) is minor, but the effect on a large system (like a power distribution network) is profound. It's one of those "little things that all add up to a lot" sort of deal. By improving the ground, you can reduce the effects of this odd electrical phenomenon.

3. The ground wires keep the electricity "clean" and reduce the amount of junk frequencies that are transmitted with the power. These junk frequencies (generated by all of your car's electrical devices) *could* impact the performance of spark plugs and the ECU, but *more likely* you'll notice it with your stereo. Dirty power will produce static and odd sounds in car stereos.

4. Jeremy is 100% trustworthy - if the guy says he got better gas mileage, I believe him! :-)

Anyways, like you said, it's worth a shot. I would say to anyone that it can't hurt, and if you have an after-market stereo, don't hesitate to do this mod. It will improve the sound coming out of your speakers at the very least...

Anyways, I thought I would share. I had to defend Jeremy too!

Here's another explanation of grounding kits that lends some credence to Jeremy's experience:

Car Bibles : Fuel additives and retrofit devices

(it's 3/4 of the way down the page).

[Deznutjob]

Originally Posted by tundrahq

The first time I heard about these grounding kits, that was my reaction too. It seems ridiculous that adding a few ground wires to the electrical system would have any real impact, but here are some facts that lend credence to Jeremy's experience.

1. A poor ground results in lower potential difference (i.e. voltage), so the power system has to work harder to generate the proper voltage. Additionally, reducing the resistance in the grounding system (by adding additional wiring) helps increase the potential difference in the system. In other words, you drop the load on the alternator by improving the ground. When you reduce the workload on the alternator, your engine doesn't have to work as hard to turn the crank. That will translate to better fuel economy. The question isn't IF it works, but HOW MUCH will it help?

2. All the electrical devices in your vehicle generate "reactive power." Basically, it's a form of resistance that's created because different electric devices use electricity in different phases. I'll be honest - I missed quite a few of my electrical engineering courses in college - but I will say this with certainty: The effect on a small system (like a car) is minor, but the effect on a large system (like a power distribution network) is profound. It's one of those "little things that all add up to a lot" sort of deal. By improving the ground, you can reduce the effects of this odd electrical phenomenon.

3. The ground wires keep the electricity "clean" and reduce the amount of junk frequencies that are transmitted with the power. These junk frequencies (generated by all of your car's electrical devices) *could* impact the performance of spark plugs and the ECU, but *more likely* you'll notice it with your stereo. Dirty power will produce static and odd sounds in car stereos.

4. Jeremy is 100% trustworthy - if the guy says he got better gas mileage, I believe him! :-)

Anyways, like you said, it's worth a shot. I would say to anyone that it can't hurt, and if you have an after-market stereo, don't hesitate to do this mod. It will improve the sound coming out of your speakers at the very least...

Anyways, I thought I would share. I had to defend Jeremy too!

Here's another explanation of grounding kits that lends some credence to Jeremy's experience:

Car Bibles : Fuel additives and retrofit devices

(it's 3/4 of the way down the page).

Hey what's up Jason! I just wanna see some proof, like I said, a before and after dyno sheet will do.

[X-SPTundra08]

The grounds from the factory are more than satisfactory the only time where i would say this would help is on an older car where there is corrosion build up leading to crappy connections on your grounds. BUT I did hear that if you connect a ground wire from one of these kits to your drive shaft it will increase gas mileage exponentially.... i am not held responsible for anything that happens