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Some say the Tundra is a 3/4 ton with 1/2 ton suspension...its still a 1/2 ton doesn't matter what running gear it has if it is only riding on a 1/2 ton suspension LOL.
Suspension is an easy upgrade. The other place where a Tundra is lacking is the lack of a full floater axle, but I don't know if that's a deal breaker or not.
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Some say the Tundra is a 3/4 ton with 1/2 ton suspension...its still a 1/2 ton doesn't matter what running gear it has if it is only riding on a 1/2 ton suspension LOL.
Suspension is an easy upgrade. The other place where a Tundra is lacking is the lack of a full floater axle, but I don't know if that's a deal breaker or not.

You can upgrade the suspension all you want, but the little tag on the door frame still dictates how much you can tow safely
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I wouldn't worry about a getting a slightly heavier travel trailer, stay legal of course. I pull a 2016 CRUISER RV RADIANCE TOURING R-28BHIK which falls in the range you are looking at with my 2011 dc 4x4 5.7 flex. It has 2 slides and an island kitchen which gives you a lot more cabinet space. The truck sits nice and level and doesn't hesitate while pulling. The tongue weight is only 680lbs. Just got home yesterday from a 1300 mile round trip.
I also run the prodigy brake controller and have no issues stopping whiling using a 10k wdh.
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You can upgrade the suspension all you want, but the little tag on the door frame still dictates how much you can tow safely
Explain that to the rest of the members here who seem to think its fine to constantly exceed that little number on that tag LOL.

Its like the Dodge Ram pickups and I think Chevrolet did it for a while too...you could get a "Heavy 1/2 ton"...still its a 1/2 ton just had a real suspension under it so it didn't look like that 100lb bag of feed was overloading the normal car suspension LOL.

I really hope they finally do something and build a 3/4 ton truck at least, I wouldn't mind buying another Toyota if that were the case, although not often I need the 3/4 ton capacity anymore but for the difference in fuel economy (none) may as well have the extra capacity. I know my next truck will have an 8' bed again though LOL....lots of hauling duties and the shorter bed isn't very helpful sometimes LOL.

If they built a 3/4 ton what would it be called? A T-250?
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You can upgrade the suspension all you want, but the little tag on the door frame still dictates how much you can tow safely
It actually doesn't dictate anything. If you upgrade whatever the "weak link" is, then you can "safely" haul more.

Hauling a 10,000 lb trailer is a hell of a lot more dangerous that not hauling no matter what you use. The weight rating does set the limit though of where Toyota will be responsible for the truck's ability.
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If they built a 3/4 ton what would it be called? A T-250?
Tundra HD.
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Tundra HD.
I'd hope they would come up with something better than just adding HD LOL. They could skip the diesel idea as far as I'm concerned, with the emissions requirements on diesels you may as well not worry about them.
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They could skip the diesel idea as far as I'm concerned, with the emissions requirements on diesels you may as well not worry about them.
Only way I'd consider a newer diesel is if there are good emissions delete kits for it. And I live in a state where they don't inspect.
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You can upgrade the suspension all you want, but the little tag on the door frame still dictates how much you can tow safely
It actually doesn't dictate anything. If you upgrade whatever the "weak link" is, then you can "safely" haul more.

Hauling a 10,000 lb trailer is a hell of a lot more dangerous that not hauling no matter what you use. The weight rating does set the limit though of where Toyota will be responsible for the truck's ability.
Sure, have fun explaining that to the judge when your convicted of manslaughter or the ambulance chaser when they drag your over weight rig on the scales after an accident.
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Sure, have fun explaining that to the judge when your convicted of manslaughter or the ambulance chaser when they drag your over weight rig on the scales after an accident.
This doesn't even happen in the US. Not sure where you live.

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Sure, have fun explaining that to the judge when your convicted of manslaughter or the ambulance chaser when they drag your over weight rig on the scales after an accident.
This doesn't even happen in the US. Not sure where you live.
Your right, what was I thinking, I gotta go, got my 10k trailer hitched up to the wife's highlander, it's upgraded and can do it so why not!
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Explain that to the rest of the members here who seem to think its fine to constantly exceed that little number on that tag LOL.



Its like the Dodge Ram pickups and I think Chevrolet did it for a while too...you could get a "Heavy 1/2 ton"...still its a 1/2 ton just had a real suspension under it so it didn't look like that 100lb bag of feed was overloading the normal car suspension LOL.



I really hope they finally do something and build a 3/4 ton truck at least, I wouldn't mind buying another Toyota if that were the case, although not often I need the 3/4 ton capacity anymore but for the difference in fuel economy (none) may as well have the extra capacity. I know my next truck will have an 8' bed again though LOL....lots of hauling duties and the shorter bed isn't very helpful sometimes LOL.



If they built a 3/4 ton what would it be called? A T-250?


The whole "heavy half ton" thing was just a number increase in gvwr so they didn't have to add catalytic converters back in the 70s. There wasn't anything different between the regular half ton and heavy half.
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This doesn't even happen in the US. Not sure where you live.
Just because you haven't heard or read of it doesn't mean it hasn't taken place in the US. I can guarantee if someone in an over loaded rig plows into a member of my family, there will be a thorough investigation and lawsuits to follow. Weight limits are enforceable for more than big rigs, the general public can be subjected to being put on a set of portable scales and fined accordingly. Negligence causing a fatal accident can also lead to negligent homicide charges brought upon the individual operating an overloaded truck or RV which is responsible for the accident that causes the death of others. Just because you can pull something doesn't make it legal or ethical to do so. Actually foolish bravado is just another way to wreck many lives when bad things happen. I see many of folks rolling down the road in RV's who have no business being behind the wheel of such a large vehicle. IMO, if someone wants a 40' diesel pusher and wants to pull a trailer or their car, they should have to be tested and licensed to do so.

I watched an older man just about drag his little Jeep through a 5' deep ditch while making a left turn. The fool made the turn sooner than he should have, the Jeep teetered on the edge. I saw a guy pulling a 40+ foot 5th wheel just about wipe out a small car when he turned sooner than he should have. Then the overloaded fools, amazing what people think is safe. Saw a guy with a Ram 1500 sporting the Ecodiesel badges, must have thought he was driving a HD truck since it was diesel. He had a 30+ foot RV hooked to the back, the bed full of misc junk. That sucker had the headlights pointing at the sky, just an accident waiting to happen. He probably didn't much care about his family because they would more than likely be suffering injury or worse, right along with him.
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