Towing experience without electric brakes. - TundraTalk.net

ponyuk · 07-07-2008, 11:15 AM

Last night I got a lead on some square bails just 8 or so miles away, so I hooked up the flat bed trailer (a Texas Bragg trailer, without electric brakes) and headed out to collect 100 bails.
I figure I was hauling between 8,500 and 10,000 lbs fully loaded. Its the first time I have hauled a trailer so heavy without electric brakes. Electric brakes are worth every penny. Even with the Tundra's powerful brakes, it can take a while to stop. If you are looking for a trailer then spend the extra money to get electric brakes.

Hawaii 5.7 · 07-07-2008, 07:11 PM

Yeah that looks like a heavy enough load to justify electric brakes.

Surprising that trailer didn't have any.

Rollin Thunder · 07-07-2008, 07:11 PM

I Was Just Thinking About Towing With No Brake Controller As Well ( 8k Lbs ) For Just 35 Miles To Get The Rig To Malibu For A Week Of Camping. Hate To Drill Holes Anywhere In The Truck To Mount The Controller. Can't Believe Toyota Doesn't Have A Built In Brake Controll Like Everyone Else....$hit All TheY Do Is Brag And Advertise Towing CAPABILITIES. Makes No sense !!!!

ryosten · 07-08-2008, 12:58 PM

What trucks come with brake controllers as OE? I have 3 friends that recently bought 3 different trucks (within a year or so) and they all had to install controllers.

Trucks were: F-150, Silverado and Ram Heavy Duty...
The F-150 and Ram both had the OE towing packages.

Codiac · 07-08-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ryosten

What trucks come with brake controllers as OE? I have 3 friends that recently bought 3 different trucks (within a year or so) and they all had to install controllers.

Trucks were: F-150, Silverado and Ram Heavy Duty...
The F-150 and Ram both had the OE towing packages.

No truck comes with a factory brake controller. Some dealers will install them as a package thing but they are not OEM.

2008_CrewMax · 07-08-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ponyuk

Last night I got a lead on some square bails just 8 or so miles away, so I hooked up the flat bed trailer (a Texas Bragg trailer, without electric brakes) and headed out to collect 100 bails.
I figure I was hauling between 8,500 and 10,000 lbs fully loaded. Its the first time I have hauled a trailer so heavy without electric brakes. Electric brakes are worth every penny. Even with the Tundra's powerful brakes, it can take a while to stop. If you are looking for a trailer then spend the extra money to get electric brakes.

Thank you for sharing .. definitely good information

bradrob82 · 07-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Ford superduty trucks come with a built in brake controller in the dash, its part of the "tow command" system they have had them in their trucks for the last couple of years. more common on the automatics, you had to special order it with the 6spd.

Rollin Thunder · 07-08-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Codiac

No truck comes with a factory brake controller. Some dealers will install them as a package thing but they are not OEM.

FORD HAS HAD A FACTORY CONTROLLER SINCE 05 AND CHEVROLET SINCE 07......DIESEL MODELS

Smed · 07-08-2008, 05:19 PM

Yeah - I'm pretty sure that I read Ford has them OEM.

Rollin Thunder · 07-08-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed

Yeah - I'm pretty sure that I read Ford has them OEM.

yep i had one in my lariat.......

2008_CrewMax · 07-08-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Codiac

No truck comes with a factory brake controller. Some dealers will install them as a package thing but they are not OEM.

good thing he's a moderator for the tundra forum and not the ford or chevy forums

ryosten · 07-08-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed

Yeah - I'm pretty sure that I read Ford has them OEM.

Welp...I guess my friend had the one Ford truck that didn't have one. His F-150 is less than a year old. Maybe it's only on 3/4 ton +.

jpnca · 07-08-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ponyuk

Last night I got a lead on some square bails just 8 or so miles away, so I hooked up the flat bed trailer (a Texas Bragg trailer, without electric brakes) and headed out to collect 100 bails.
I figure I was hauling between 8,500 and 10,000 lbs fully loaded. Its the first time I have hauled a trailer so heavy without electric brakes. Electric brakes are worth every penny. Even with the Tundra's powerful brakes, it can take a while to stop. If you are looking for a trailer then spend the extra money to get electric brakes.

A little different than CPT!

Mickey · 07-09-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollin Thunder

FORD HAS HAD A FACTORY CONTROLLER SINCE 05 AND CHEVROLET SINCE 07......DIESEL MODELS

That's the catch? the diesel models are 3/4 ton trucks? That makes a difference than a 1/2 ton truck. I know both trucks I had 03 F-150 and 06 Silverado didn't have it and both had towing packages with them.

Rollin Thunder · 07-11-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ryosten

Welp...I guess my friend had the one Ford truck that didn't have one. His F-150 is less than a year old. Maybe it's only on 3/4 ton +.

ONLY IN THE SUPER DOODIE LINE......

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07-08-2008, 12:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
ryosten Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8	What trucks come with brake controllers as OE? I have 3 friends that recently bought 3 different trucks (within a year or so) and they all had to install controllers. Trucks were: F-150, Silverado and Ram Heavy Duty... The F-150 and Ram both had the OE towing packages.

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bradrob82 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shanghai, WV Posts: 18	Ford superduty trucks come with a built in brake controller in the dash, its part of the "tow command" system they have had them in their trucks for the last couple of years. more common on the automatics, you had to special order it with the 6spd.

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Smed Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 423	Yeah - I'm pretty sure that I read Ford has them OEM.

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