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Old 05-20-2008, 09:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Would the mileage drop if I drove like this?

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Funny maybe like a spoiler you know...
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Funny maybe like a spoiler you know...
A spoiler decreases gas mileage but improves handling!
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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A spoiler decreases gas mileage but improves handling!
so does my sway bar.....
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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so does my sway bar.....
Does a Crew Max need one of those? What's the purpose?
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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No a CM probably don't, but I like handling alot better.
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another thing about me like you ask why do I need a 4wd. I don't. I don't get stuck so why carry the extra weight.
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I saw this thread while searching google and decided to register here and respond.. I'm currently doing a documentary on mpg modifications and working with Presidential Rides, a custom shop in Houston, Texas that specializes in high performance modifications.

A distributor I interviewed last week talked about toneneau covers briefly, explaining that they will provide a 1 mpg gain, (up to 2 mpg gain in some cases). It's a small piece of a big puzzle of what CAN be done to modify your Tundra to get better gas mileage. Anyhow, we're running mpg testing on new Tundras for a local Toyota dealership next week (before and after) performance upgrades. If anyone's interested, PM me and I'll provide you with a link to preview the videos and documentary of the MPG improvements to these trucks once the tests are completed.

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Houston as you can see I run with a soft top. Also watched mythbusters proved that wrong. I will pm you because I want to see the facts of this....
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:42 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Houston as you can see I run with a soft top. Also watched mythbusters proved that wrong. I will pm you because I want to see the facts of this....
Forgot pic of soft top.
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The Tonneau Cover Fuel Economy MYTH | tundraheadquarters.com


OUR BS METER WENT OFF when we read that last line. Is SEMA actually saying that they spent the money to test aerodynamic drag on four different trucks, but that they didn’t spend just a little bit more to find out about actual real-world fuel economy savings? Something doesn’t smell right…

Here’s our interpretation of the study:

1) The largest reduction in aerodynamic drag (7.8%) was observed at 85mph. If we’re generous, we could assume that 75% of the engine’s power is being used to overcome the force of drag at this speed (the other 25% goes to tire friction, heat loss, etc.). If drag is reduced by 8%, that would result in a 6% reduction in engine workload. If the truck averages 18 mpg at this speed, then reducing engine workload 6% would improve fuel economy 1.08 mpg. SO, at 85 mph, expect to see about a 1 mpg improvement with a tonneau cover.

2) At a more realistic highway speed of 65 mph, drag is reduced about 5.5%. Using the same math as above but assuming that only half of the engine’s power is being used to overcome drag at this lower speed, fuel economy is improved by 0.5 mpg.

3) At 55mph or below, the fuel economy benefit basically disappears. Aerodynamic drag isn’t significant until you reach speeds of about 55-60 mph. Technically there would be a fuel savings, but it would be small. Less than a tenth of a mpg.

4) Finally, there were 6 different tonneau covers tested. SEMA didn’t disclose which was which, but we’re fairly certain that a fitted, over the rail solid fiberglass tonneau cover gives the best fuel economy results. The cloth/vinyl covers buffet in the wind, and anything that doesn’t go over the rail creates it’s own vortex. Painted to match, these covers cost $700 to $1100 installed.

Now before anyone goes off on us for making assumptions, etc., we did speak with a couple of engineers when writing this article. They emphasized these are rough numbers, and that they could be off by as much as 25%. That means that the best case fuel economy improvement is 1.35 mpg at 85 mph, and 0.63 mpg at 65 mph.

Assuming gas is $3.50 per gallon, here’s how the best case math works out:

Driving your tonneau cover equipped truck at 65mph for 20 minutes per day would save you 0.04 gallons of gas, or about $0.14 per day. Under these circumstances, we figure it will take about 30 years of workday commuting to save enough to earn back the cost of a $1000 tonneau cover.

Drive your tonneau cover equipped truck at 85mph for 60 minutes a day and you’ll save 0.33 gallons of gas, or about $1.16 per day. We figure that’s only 3 years and 7 months of workday commuting to earn back a $1000 tonneau cover. Of course, during that same period, you’ll spend over $13k on fuel. We feel sorry for anyone that has to drive their truck 85mph for 60 minutes a day — the fuel costs for just three years would be enough to buy a nice toy (ATV, boat, motorcycle, etc.).

Bottomline: Tonneau covers DO save gas, but not very much. While the aerodynamic drag numbers sound impressive (4-8% reduction), they don’t actually result in enough gas savings to justify the expense for a normal user. If you buy a tonneau, do it because it keeps your bed dry and secure.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:44 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Bed DRY/SECURE....Okay by me....
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Yes , that would be my reason for getting a cover , not to save gas .
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:47 AM   #30 (permalink)
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How about looks......It looks great to me. Best thing easy to remove to use truck for what it's made for.
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