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Old 05-11-2008, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My 08 Tundra has the basic 6CD stereo. The AM button has AM/SAT on it. Does this indicate that I have some Sattilite capability? If so then with what company. As normal the Manual is of little use.

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My 08 Tundra has the basic 6CD stereo. The AM button has AM/SAT on it. Does this indicate that I have some Sattilite capability? If so then with what company. As normal the Manual is of little use.

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It's means your radio is "satellite ready." If you add a satellite receiver (XM or Sirius) and an antenna, then you can listen to satellite transmissions on your factory radio.
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So do I plug it into the AUX connector like I would my MP3 player? I don't understand why the seperate button on the AM button? How do you connect it? Can't I listen on my reciever with any if I tune it in to the common frequency? I don't see the difference.
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So do I plug it into the AUX connector like I would my MP3 player? I don't understand why the seperate button on the AM button? How do you connect it? Can't I listen on my reciever with any if I tune it in to the common frequency? I don't see the difference.
No, the satellite receiver will plug into the rear of your head unit and you will control it with the controls on your existing radio. You can have 18 preset stations, similar to your FM and AM presets. You have to remove the stereo, route the cables behind the dash and mount the satellite antenna. It's not difficult, but it takes about an hour of labor to take the dash apart and install the receiver and antenna.

If you get a separate, stand-alone satellite receiver, you can play it through the AUX port, but you won't be able to control it with your radio controls.

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Proabaly best to have the dealer do it, I had them do mine when I bought, glad I did look like a real pain in the a$$, go with sirius, xm is definetly on the downhill slump, the two companys are gonna merge and sirius will be the medium. SIRIUS rules.
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...go with sirius, xm is definetly on the downhill slump, the two companys are gonna merge and sirius will be the medium. SIRIUS rules.
Actually, that's not really correct. XM has more subscribers, more revenue, more terrestrial repeaters and better sound quality than Sirius. Both companies are losing money, but Sirius has posted losses totalling almost 2x as much in the past 12 months.

In today's quarterly earnings release, XM posted losses of $129.3M while increasing revenue by 17%. They also reported 303,000 new subscribers, which is up 6.3% from the previous quarter. That gives them a total of 9.3M paid subscriptions...1M more than Sirius.

Sirius has also reduced its estimates for revenue and subscriber growth in FY08. In fact, they believe they will actually begin to lose retail subscribers completely by year end and rely solely on OEM subscriptions to drive growth. Sirius will release it's quarterly earnings after market close today.

Sirius has also delayed the launches of their new satellites (FM-5 and FM-6) by at least a year (2009 and 2012 respectively).

After completion of the merger, most experts believe the current XM format will the be the primary offering while many of Sirius's more popular programs/channels will be pushed over.
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Actually, that's not really correct. XM has more subscribers, more revenue, more terrestrial repeaters and better sound quality than Sirius. Both companies are losing money, but Sirius has posted losses totalling almost 2x as much in the past 12 months.

In today's quarterly earnings release, XM posted losses of $129.3M while increasing revenue by 17%. They also reported 303,000 new subscribers, which is up 6.3% from the previous quarter. That gives them a total of 9.3M paid subscriptions...1M more than Sirius.

Sirius has also reduced its estimates for revenue and subscriber growth in FY08. In fact, they believe they will actually begin to lose retail subscribers completely by year end and rely solely on OEM subscriptions to drive growth. Sirius will release it's quarterly earnings after market close today.

Sirius has also delayed the launches of their new satellites (FM-5 and FM-6) by at least a year (2009 and 2012 respectively).

After completion of the merger, most experts believe the current XM format will the be the primary offering while many of Sirius's more popular programs/channels will be pushed over.
I agree but Sirius is the company buying out XM.
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Actually, that's not really correct. XM has more subscribers, more revenue, more terrestrial repeaters and better sound quality than Sirius. Both companies are losing money, but Sirius has posted losses totalling almost 2x as much in the past 12 months.

In today's quarterly earnings release, XM posted losses of $129.3M while increasing revenue by 17%. They also reported 303,000 new subscribers, which is up 6.3% from the previous quarter. That gives them a total of 9.3M paid subscriptions...1M more than Sirius.

Sirius has also reduced its estimates for revenue and subscriber growth in FY08. In fact, they believe they will actually begin to lose retail subscribers completely by year end and rely solely on OEM subscriptions to drive growth. Sirius will release it's quarterly earnings after market close today.

Sirius has also delayed the launches of their new satellites (FM-5 and FM-6) by at least a year (2009 and 2012 respectively).

After completion of the merger, most experts believe the current XM format will the be the primary offering while many of Sirius's more popular programs/channels will be pushed over.
GO XM, I knew I picked the best! :-)
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I agree but Sirius is the company buying out XM.
It doesn't matter which company funds the merger. Sirius bought XM because it's the only way both companies would survive, but Sirius was in danger of folding first. Acquiring XM ensured Sirius's survival...not the other way around.
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It doesn't matter which company funds the merger. Sirius bought XM because it's the only way both companies would survive, but Sirius was in danger of folding first. Acquiring XM ensured Sirius's survival...not the other way around.
They were both headed to chapter 11. Sirius had the best future outlook.

Picking between xm and sirius really comes down to some simple choices: Howard(FTW) vs O&A(complete shit), and NFL & nascar vs mlb & nba.

Also sirius music channels are much much better organized then xm. XM sounds like someone hit random on a big pile of cds.
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They were both headed to chapter 11. Sirius had the best future outlook.
Actually, both companies were (and still are) hemorrhaging cash. Sirius was bleeding faster, though. They spent way too much money trying to catch up with XM and dug a hole from which they couldn't climb before the profits from Stern and the NFL contract showed up. Equipment subsidies, while necessary to build an initial subcriber base, doomed them both from the start.

It was really coin flip as to which company would buy the other. I'm just glad it looks like satellite radio will survive. I have XM in four vehicles and Sirius in three others. If I had to go back to FM/AM again, I'd just throw the head units in the trash and put iPod docks in their place.

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They were both headed to chapter 11. Sirius had the best future outlook.

Picking between xm and sirius really comes down to some simple choices: Howard(FTW) vs O&A(complete shit), and NFL & nascar vs mlb & nba.

Also sirius music channels are much much better organized then xm. XM sounds like someone hit random on a big pile of cds.
Your right, Satelite does come down to simple choices. O&A (relevant, quick, and still funny) vs Howard (FTW... For the Win? IS HE?)(He is a washed up old hack, not funny anymore). Howard is irrelevant now. He cashed in his big payday and just calls it in. If you don't like O&A, put down the Howard Kool-Aid and just say that. Don't go on and start bashing assuming there are no O&A fans that drive Tundras. By the way.. O&A stands for Opie and Anthony. If you have XM, listen to channel 202 and judge for yourself.

How is Sirius much more organized. XM has categories, just like Sirius does. If I want a certain type of music, I know exactly which category to go to. And when it comes to the categories, they are pretty much the same. The only difference comes from other types of radio besides the music.
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I'm just glad it looks like satellite radio will survive. If I had to go back to FM/AM again, I'd just throw the head units in the trash and put iPod docks in their place.
Very True! As long as the programming doesn't change to much I don't care what the name of it is.
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O&A are the biggest hacks/howard stern rip offs period. There horrible and their show isnt even exclusive to XM the play it on terestrial radio also. SIrius is still gaining subcribers faster that XM.
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O&A are the biggest hacks/howard stern rip offs period. There horrible and their show isnt even exclusive to XM the play it on terestrial radio also. SIrius is still gaining subcribers faster that XM.
Call it what you want. Could care less for Howard and O&A. I listen to oldies and the wife like's the comedies. We both have XM. Had XM since 06 in my silverado.
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O&A are the biggest hacks/howard stern rip offs period. There horrible and their show isnt even exclusive to XM the play it on terestrial radio also. SIrius is still gaining subcribers faster that XM.
If you read TexBikers post earlier you would know that XM has more subscribers that Sirius. So by saying "Sirius is still gaining subscribers faster than XM," is just plain ridiculous.

Howard Stern Ripoffs? I won't even qualify that with a response.

First off they are on 2 platforms. They are syndicated on numerous FM radio stations plus they are on XM. So you can't tell me they aren't succesful. The proof is right there. Why doesn't your idol Howard have that deal? Oh ya, he is not as popular anymore. Oh, and Opie and Anthony were on Satelite first. Looks like Howard ripped O&A off.
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Call it what you want. Could care less for Howard and O&A. I listen to oldies and the wife like's the comedies. We both have XM. Had XM since 06 in my silverado.
Not much for Oldies, but the comedy channel is great.
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If you read TexBikers post earlier you would know that XM has more subscribers that Sirius. So by saying "Sirius is still gaining subscribers faster than XM," is just plain ridiculous.

Howard Stern Ripoffs? I won't even qualify that with a response.

First off they are on 2 platforms. They are syndicated on numerous FM radio stations plus they are on XM. So you can't tell me they aren't succesful. The proof is right there. Why doesn't your idol Howard have that deal? Oh ya, he is not as popular anymore. Oh, and Opie and Anthony were on Satelite first. Looks like Howard ripped O&A off.
I agree. Don't care for an arrogant a** who thinks all his listeners should buy into sirius just to listen to him. When he didn't get the audience he expected he blew a gasket. Glad to see him hit the earth now and is just the same as everyone else.
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Stern and O&A are both proof that you'll never go broke if you pander to the lowest common denominator. I'm absolutely stunned every time I hear of an adult that actually listens to any of them.

However, if someone offered me a $500M contract to sit around and tell fart jokes all day, I just might be tempted.
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I have both!! lol I switched from XM because I think the rock is better with Sirius. That is my primary choice. I do like the euro trance and dance selection from XM better than Sirius. I paid for XM for "X" number of months and still have some time left. I do not care for any talk type shows...thats is why I chose sat radio. Commercial free, hence NO TALKING. I am from Philadelphia and have listened to Howard for years due to the fact that on my commute to work @ 530am, there wasn't the best choice of music. He has his moments, but I would rather listen to the radio for the MUSIC, not some gay talk show.
Bottom line, look at all the music selections from each and I am sure at least two of your friends have one of each sat option. Just cruse through each one and to the genre you like best for a little bit and make the call your self. It takes a little time, but I think both have their perks.
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