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Old 05-11-2008, 08:16 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Do you actually need a lift, i.e. heavy off-road use, etc?

If not, why plunge yourself into unnecessary debt for posing equipment?
If you saw my truck or any lifted Tundra for that matter then gave it a spin you might think different! Mine drives great on and off road and was worth every penny. Oh yah and from the tires to the hood, its all payed for! No debt!
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Do you actually need a lift, i.e. heavy off-road use, etc?

If not, why plunge yourself into unnecessary debt for posing equipment?
Depends what you want out of your truck. I build my trucks to meet my needs. I agree some people build street queens and spend money like crazy but there are some of us that use our trucks like trucks
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If you saw my truck or any lifted Tundra for that matter then gave it a spin you might think different! Mine drives great on and off road and was worth every penny. Oh yah and from the tires to the hood, its all payed for! No debt!
You actually take yours off-road though Most of the the guys here dont seem to. I've driven several lifted trucks, never saw the point myself for general use. Now, if its used very regularly for more serious off-roading, or special circumstances that mandate it, then yes, it makes sense to me.

As for the OP, I was just offering a devils advocate view. If he's worried about paying for it to begin with... well, then the cost of tires, the lower mileage out of them (more frequent replacement), the decrease in mpg, etc, all go to the increased cost of operation.

If the cost of the lift alone is an issue, then the associated re-occurring cost should be a huge factor in the decision making process. At least, rationally.

Like I said, just playing devils advocate...
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Depends what you want out of your truck. I build my trucks to meet my needs. I agree some people build street queens and spend money like crazy but there are some of us that use our trucks like trucks
Indeed. I'm about functionality myself, not interested in 'looks' or posing. I do separate needs from wants though.

As an example, I was considering lifting my old F150, at the time, I lived in a flood zone, and sometimes the water got deep on some access roads. I already had some BFG Commercial T/A's on the truck (stock size), which I would have kept along with the stock wheels. No posing there, pure functionality for a real and re-occurring situation, sometimes, ya gotta pack as much sh*t up as ya can, and just plain get out. Fortunately, I moved from that area, so I didnt have to bother lifting the truck, there was no need for it anymore.
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Indeed. I'm about functionality myself, not interested in 'looks' or posing. I do separate needs from wants though.

As an example, I was considering lifting my old F150, at the time, I lived in a flood zone, and sometimes the water got deep on some access roads. I already had some BFG Commercial T/A's on the truck (stock size), which I would have kept along with the stock wheels. No posing there, pure functionality for a real and re-occurring situation, sometimes, ya gotta pack as much sh*t up as ya can, and just plain get out. Fortunately, I moved from that area, so I didnt have to bother lifting the truck, there was no need for it anymore.
No posing here Griff I still haul heavy loads with no problem. I just have to use ramps more often.
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Do you actually need a lift, i.e. heavy off-road use, etc?

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who are you asking that to
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who are you asking that to
That was actually gonna be my first question but I ended up diving straight in. Oh well.
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who are you asking that to
i think to me, and yes i'm off road 3 days a week at the mx track and my property riding and just working setting up my personal track
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i think to me, and yes i'm off road 3 days a week at the mx track and my property riding and just working setting up my personal track
does griffin have a 4wd...if so does he use it everyday...seems like an awful alot of money to not use everyday...i'm sure he doesn't use the bed of his truck everyday...seems like an awful alot of money to buy a truck if he doesn't use it everyday...

i don't use my truck off road everyday...sometimes weeks go by when it doesn't leave the pavement...but it sure is nice to have a good setup when it does
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does griffin have a 4wd...if so does he use it everyday...seems like an awful alot of money to not use everyday...i'm sure he doesn't use the bed of his truck everyday...seems like an awful alot of money to buy a truck if he doesn't use it everyday....what a tool
No reason to be a jackass. I wasnt making anything personal.

To answer your question, I use the 4wd 2 to 3 a week during summer, much more during winter/rainy months. I use the bed of my truck almost everyday, as well as tow pretty good size trailers a few times a week. Its a work'n truck, and it gets the job done.
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lmao nobody was being an ass just pointing out points
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No reason to be a jackass. I wasnt making anything personal.

To answer your question, I use the 4wd 2 to 3 a week during summer, much more during winter/rainy months. I use the bed of my truck almost everyday, as well as tow pretty good size trailers a few times a week. Its a work'n truck, and it gets the job done.
Take some pics of the truck working! I have to leave mine at the yard but I guess thats a good thing
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lmao nobody was being an ass just pointing out points
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....what a tool
That kind of remark was unnecessary in an otherwise adult conversation.
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Well concerning the main point of this thread, I have about $2513 alone in axles, and $6800 in just suspension. But that is money well spent since I use my 4x4 quite often. But Griffin is right, the re-occurring costs is whats going to get you. New tires and replacement for broken parts will be happening all the time. And I payed with money
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That kind of remark was unnecessary in an otherwise adult conversation.
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Doesn't really matter if your truck is Bro status or the real deal off-road king. What matters is it's yours and your paying for it. Keep it to your tastes.

Oh and hey Dez everyone likes the cados porque estan mucho Raza en LA!
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gosh i love leaving my lifted truck on the pavement, looking all pretty .. wearing out those mud terrain's on the pavement and not the mud

no scratches or dents, truck is always gleaming

dont like it? I dont give a shit.
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still looks brand new...easy to clean...gets lots of compliments
I'm leaning more and more towards going this direction... do you mind me asking what they charged you to do the bumpers?
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No reason to be a jackass. I wasnt making anything personal.

To answer your question, I use the 4wd 2 to 3 a week during summer, much more during winter/rainy months. I use the bed of my truck almost everyday, as well as tow pretty good size trailers a few times a week. Its a work'n truck, and it gets the job done.
Believe it or not you were making it personal just look at the responses dude! That's quite a bit of towing and haulin I hope you're maintaining that thing. These Tundra's are also a mode of transportation and a vehicle people like to spend money on and be prowd of. You must live in the sticks to need 4wd that often and if so there's the reason for you being narrow minded about trucks brother! I live in So Cal and 85% of the trucks set up for offroad you see never touch dirt, they just like fixing em up and driving comando on the street. To each his own. Oh ya and that term "posing" went out in the 80's.
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Believe it or not you were making it personal just look at the responses dude!
Not one thing I said was personal to anyone. Nor did I start with any name-calling (like calling some one a "tool").

I provided a Devils advocate view in regards to the cost and what he wanted/needed it for, thats all.

Now, some people are a bit sensitive, and dont like the poser/posing moniker, its not an insult or jab, it is what it is. As one of the Mods said, some people build for off-road but are "street queens" that will never leave the pavement. That by definition is posing, but some guys dont like that description, but again, it is what it is. Its not an insult, its not making it personal, its simply an appropriate description.

I dont care what people do with their trucks, its their money, whatever makes them happy, floats their boat, etc. If one of the guys builds a truck with a huge lift, giant mud tires, and all the associated gear, yet never leaves the pavement, dont try to tell me its something other than it is.

Now if some guys builds an off-road truck thats never leaves the pavement, and says, "yeah, its a poser truck, all for show..." now thats being real. He knows what it is, isnt in denial about it, and isnt trying to fool anyone. That I can appreciate.

I'm quite done with this topic, but by all means, carry on without me

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