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I dont think it will be a 6.2L.
Lately it seems like every manufacture is downsizing engines and adding more gears
I'd be willing to bet on a 3.5 (similar to what is coming in the LS500)

"the LS has always used a V8 as its sole powerplant. Now the car uses an all-new 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6, which Lexus says delivers V8 power and acceleration. Itís rated at 415 horsepower and 442 lb-ft of torque"

Of course tuned more like a truck
They are way past due LED's (front and rear)
and like somebody else mentioned hopefully a better sound system and remote start system
wouldn't hurt to shed 200+ pounds
The 6.2L is backwards, new engine will be a 2.6L 4 cylinder 10 speed auto. Gone are the days of real engines in trucks, they keep pushing tiny lawnmower size engines now. They say the turbo engines will tow/haul more...sure but how long? What's the real world reliability of that idea? From what I've seen not very good at all.

I hope they do some major updates because truthfully I've looked at the '16+ tundras and they're the same as my '08 tundra with a few cosmetic changes and at some point they replaced the T-case, 2010 or 2012 I think. They've stripped things out of the newer tundras that my 08 base model has, and they've raised the prices on them drastically. My 08 sticker was $32,580 new ones comparable features are $35k. Sure a $3k increase doesn't sound like much but they've removed features and the truck is basically the same as far as power train and body.

I know they suck for fuel economy...9mpg the past 1-1/2 months the truck has been in 4WD constantly due to road conditions and extended warm up times due to being below zero for several days and teens for highs LOL. They run great but man the pocket book feels the 4WD usage LOL.

I had about 2' of snow in my driveway, its now kind of melting so its about 14" of snow left now but its a mess. We had 8" of snow on the ground when I had my truck in for its 100k service and transmission service and all that done. I got to drive a 2017 RAV4 AWD. It did great in the 8" of snow/ice mess we had then but man I don't think it would make it through my driveway with the 2' of snow I had up until a few days ago. My tundra has a hard enough time fighting through all that snow.

There's gotta be some improvements and changes coming but I don't see it in 2018 from what I've been seeing and reading, same truck again . Come on Toyota...ok fine wait another 10-15 years when my '08 tundra is closer to being worn out LOL.
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Been holding out mainly to see if the headlights are reengineered to be projectors.
Given that disappointing article, I'm probably going to bite the bullet and order some TRD pro headlamps and have @eledobleu work his magic on them...but it's so much $$$$.
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TFLTruck stated in an article posted today that they are still expecting to see a refreshed Tundra at Chicago. FWIW.

"What about the rumored 2018 Toyota Tundra update? We are still expecting the refreshed Tundra to show up at the 2017 Chicago Auto Show, that runs (Feb 11th ? 20th, 2017)."

http://www.tfltruck.com/2017/01/new-...-others-naias/
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I think a lot of the update talk will be contingent on your definition of the word update. If there are no driveline changes Toyota should be running away from the word update, and embrace the phrase "we sell 110K units a year what do you want"? Maybe we should be satisfied with "slight evolutionary changes"? Addition of safety nannies, headlight, and interior fluff changes are nice and evolutionary. Nothing wrong with that, just so Toyota/Sweers understand, we understand the word, we expect more.

Till more happens my 2008 will be fine.

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if they do release something cool in chi-town

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Well I guess your truck must be aimed correctly maybe. My lights suck. Baaaddd.

Way worse than my 2010 was stock.

In the older gen at least you had highs and lows at the same time.

My lows are very low and don't go out enough, my highs don't shine close enough.

The cut-off is good, but just too damned low.

I guess when I level I will just keep it at 0 instead of 1.5-2 on the knob.

They are bad enough that I ordered a set of led's hoping they make them at least somewhat safe.



I have never had a vehicle I would say the headlights weren't safely lighting the roadway since my 81 F150. The lights on my 17 are about equal to those for reference.

I am so afraid a deer will jump out and I won't see the reflection in the eyes on the side of the road till it's too late that I have been limiting myself to 25 on back roads. 40 on main roads where deer run out.
The Bright Lights on my 14 are way worse than on my 07. Regular lights are a little better....

My 16 Highlander have great headlights....
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I dont think it will be a 6.2L.

Lately it seems like every manufacture is downsizing engines and adding more gears

I'd be willing to bet on a 3.5 (similar to what is coming in the LS500)



"the LS has always used a V8 as its sole powerplant. Now the car uses an all-new 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6, which Lexus says delivers V8 power and acceleration. Itís rated at 415 horsepower and 442 lb-ft of torque"



Of course tuned more like a truck

They are way past due LED's (front and rear)

and like somebody else mentioned hopefully a better sound system and remote start system

wouldn't hurt to shed 200+ pounds


Sounds like you want an aluminum f150 ecotec.


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TFLTruck stated in an article posted today that they are still expecting to see a refreshed Tundra at Chicago. FWIW.

"What about the rumored 2018 Toyota Tundra update? We are still expecting the refreshed Tundra to show up at the 2017 Chicago Auto Show, that runs (Feb 11th ? 20th, 2017)."

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I think a lot of the update talk will be contingent on your definition of the word update. If there are no driveline changes Toyota should be running away from the word update, and embrace the phrase "we sell 110K units a year what do you want"? Maybe we should be satisfied with "slight evolutionary changes"? Addition of safety nannies, headlight, and interior fluff changes are nice and evolutionary. Nothing wrong with that, just so Toyota/Sweers understand, we understand the word, we expect more.

Till more happens my 2008 will be fine.

I'm fine with that. The Tundra is a great truck as is. The only things I think it really could use is a slight increase in fuel economy and power, some additional interior storage, stereo headunit update (Entune 3.0), and apparently improved headlights.


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Lol! Those guys are tools. Are you really relying on them for actual information?
Nope, thats why I ended by adding a "For what its worth". I dont think anyone on here has a concrete source for 'actual information'.
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On the fuel economy front Toyota has refined the ECU to it's most efficient levels given the tech and emissions requirements. They will have to reduce weight and drivetrain tech to get better economy. Will be interesting to see where they head with it, once it actually happens.

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On the fuel economy front Toyota has refined the ECU to it's most efficient levels given the tech and emissions requirements. They will have to reduce weight and drivetrain tech to get better economy. Will be interesting to see where they head with it, once it actually happens.
nah, throw in a 6.2 I force with a shit load more power

I promise it will get better MPG


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Softer rear supplemented with air bags would be a nice touch.


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my guess is the update won't be til 2019 or 2020- I don't ever think its a good idea to buy the first year- all you out there waiting for the big update might have to get another dose of patience- good luck
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wouldn't hurt to shed 200+ pounds
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And the most important thing of all

Ditch the AIP


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