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It is all superfluous. Typical instantaneous reaction to something long anticipated .. in the era of internet and social networking.
People are not really disappointed.. and they don't know that yet... In the internet era expressing discontent and frustration has more cache than keeping it real and straightforward. I am not saying people are faking it.. I am saying.. we are programmed to be pessimistic and cynical and have over-expectations about anything and everything..
Mark my words.. the new models will sell pretty well and once they do.. you'll find the same people singing a totally different tune...
We all love to shoot our wads as quickly as possible.. and that's all there is to it.
No, it's real disappointment.
All they need is a diesel option to keep my interest.
General observation here, but everyone that echoes this sentiment, are you saying you bought the wrong truck to begin with? IDK, it seems like the cool thing to say as of late. Diesel in this town is over $4.25 a gallon while gas is about $3.25. I don't see the benefit of diesel with the extra costs of ownership. There has to be something better on the horizon no? I'm not downplaying diesel at all as I know it's fantastic for mpg and pulling power. But here in Vegas, it seems it costs more to drive one.
I just want to understand more about diesel and it's allure as a DD. I know in other countries diesel is cheaper but I'll be damn if in Vegas it's liquid gold.
Toyota does have a V8 diesel option, which resides in the LandCruiser atm. If I had to put money on it, I would say that would be the diesel they would use in the Tundra's. So Ram releases v6 diesel 1500, Titan gets possibly a 4 cylinder 2.8litre or 3.8litre cummins. If I had to pick one of those, you can be damn sure it would be the cummins.
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Official 2014 Tundra Discussion Thread! (All others will be deleted)
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Originally Posted by Tundergas
General observation here, but everyone that echoes this sentiment, are you saying you bought the wrong truck to begin with? IDK, it seems like the cool thing to say as of late. Diesel in this town is over $4.25 a gallon while gas is about $3.25. I don't see the benefit of diesel with the extra costs of ownership. There has to be something better on the horizon no? I'm not downplaying diesel at all as I know it's fantastic for mpg and pulling power. But here in Vegas, it seems it costs more to drive one.
I just want to understand more about diesel and it's allure as a DD. I know in other countries diesel is cheaper but I'll be damn if in Vegas it's liquid gold.
I bought the first gen because I needed to some towing capability. Only when I did a 1100 mile trip I realized I needed a bigger truck, so I looked for a diesel, but after weighing pros/cons got a 11 tundra crewmax instead because it had a bigger engine with more HP, and I could deal with the interior. My recent nitpicking is because after a year of this Tundra and another tow 1800 miles this time I realize I need more. I am getting older; I need more features, space, convenience, and towing power. I need more from the Tundra I am not getting it now, and the auto show crystal ball says I will not get it from Toyota in the future. With those needs in consideration, brand loyalty is no longer a factor in my decision.
General observation here, but everyone that echoes this sentiment, are you saying you bought the wrong truck to begin with? IDK, it seems like the cool thing to say as of late. Diesel in this town is over $4.25 a gallon while gas is about $3.25. I don't see the benefit of diesel with the extra costs of ownership. There has to be something better on the horizon no? I'm not downplaying diesel at all as I know it's fantastic for mpg and pulling power. But here in Vegas, it seems it costs more to drive one.
I just want to understand more about diesel and it's allure as a DD. I know in other countries diesel is cheaper but I'll be damn if in Vegas it's liquid gold.
ya this really seems to be going around of late. But, I don't think I would fork over an extra 4-5K and spend up to 1.00 more per gallon just to have a deisel.
If you tow that heavy, you need a 3/4 or 1 ton truck anyway, so the 1/2 ton deisel doesn't really work from what I have seen. I guess the RAM will be the ginny pig and maybe it will be the best thing ever, of course,
you'll have to buy a ram to get one though
and then you have to factor in extra repair costs as well
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Isn't it quite the contrary? like most things in life, the first immediate reactions is usually DEAD WRONG!.. the more time we spend in understanding and getting familiar with something..the more we seem to like it and change our views about it. I mean I've listened to REALLY REALLY GOOD music the first time and thought.. "what the heck was this musician thinking!".. and then later as it caught on to me.. I realized the genius behind it.
I am not saying we will all feel the same about the new design.. but I am confident that most people will end up raving about how awesome their new 2014 trucks look.
I think for the majority part.. we all like the interior and the tail. We'll grow to like the front too I believe.
I don't feel it's the contrary. The Chevy Avalanche was ugly to me when it first came out, and no matter how many times I see it, I can't change my views.
As for music, people respond to "familiar". A record producer shows up at an FM station with a bag of coke and a briefcase full of money and a Vanilla Ice demo reel in his hand. Next thing you know we're hearing "Ice, Ice Baby" every fifteen minutes and after about a month we think we realize the genius behind it.
I love the new interior, I don't care if it looks like Fords interior, I think we were all long overdue for an upgrade and this is a step it the right direction. As for the exterior, I hope you're right and I begin to come around. But what I feel will happen with most of us not liking the exterior is, we will learn to accept it, knowing there is absolutely nothing we can do to change Toyotas mind.
OK so i went to the Chicago Auto Show and wow i was not impressed. So not only did they not have the truck open to see teh inside of it the rear bumper has a shark fin point on it IMO it looks like Sh*t but yeah I would not drive 5 hours to get to the Chicago auto show again
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I just now watched the reveal video, and the DC in the background looks practically identical to the current model:
Looking at that pic again, it looks to be a bit more proportional than the CM. Oh, and behold the mighty Wedge Bumper sneaking in from the right-edge of said pic!!!
I'm actually a bit surprised that many people seem to like the back-end more than the front. The wedge-bumper and the toy-looking gate are, at least at this point, deal-breakers for me. As some have already said, I think the front-end will start to sink in, and the interior looks good.
Overall, I'm ok with it, but I'll be holding on to my "organic" 2012 for years to come.
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I think he is kinda like M&M's, but M&M's is just a little more angry at errbody. M&M's grew up in a trailer park, I don't think Vanilla Icecream did?
When I was a teenager I listened to some of his music...it was aight. word to your mother
He also cooked MC's like a pound of bacon, he had a 5.0 (a V8 creo, you'd probably like it), and he had girlies on standby, and I think he was packin a 9mm peter...he was a pimp
"Between the ages of 13 and 14, Van Winkle practiced breakdancing, which led to his friends nicknaming him "Vanilla", as he was the only one in the group that was not African American"
I bought the first gen because I needed to some towing capability. Only when I did a 1100 mile trip I realized I needed a bigger truck, so I looked for a diesel, but after weighing pros/cons got a 11 tundra crewmax instead because it had a bigger engine with more HP, and I could deal with the interior. My recent nitpicking is because after a year of this Tundra and another tow 1800 miles this time I realize I need more. I am getting older; I need more features, space, convenience, and towing power. I need more from the Tundra I am not getting it now, and the auto show crystal ball says I will not get it from Toyota in the future. With those needs in consideration, brand loyalty is no longer a factor in my decision.
All well taken! I understand where you are coming from for sure. I can remember back in the day my father towing a 23ft trailer with a 302 in his Econoline van. Dear god I don't miss those trips. With all the scuba gear loaded up, the inflatable boat, the 25hp Merc outboard, it's amazing we ever made it up the hills. Besides hating that van but it was the best way to keep gear safe as we would be out all day.
Actually, do your research on the trucks before you make assumptions on payload. Ford has not begun using the new standards. However Ram and Toyota have. If you want a real eye opener, go look at the payload numbers on the door jamb of a 2500/3500 ram. Never believe the advertising or what you see on TV concerning payload, Ford is in the same boat when it comes to payload. Ford simply has a stripped down version of their truck that allows their payload numbers to seem higher. Similarly equipped trucks from Toyota and Ford would lean to the Toyota trucks having higher payload. Just as an example... my 2012 f150 platinum had a door jamb payload rating of 1531lbs. I weighed the truck empty and it weighed in on a certified cat scale at 6130lbs.... GVWR was 7200 minus 6130 = 1030 not 1531 as the sticker would have you believe. On the other side of the fence, weighing the Tundra the exact same weigh results in the payload numbers being within 50lbs of the door jamb... which can be attributed to random crap in the truck.
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I understand where you are coming from for sure. I can remember back in the day my father towing a 23ft trailer with a 302 in his Econoline van. Dear god I don't miss those trips. With all the scuba gear loaded up, the inflatable boat, the 25hp Merc outboard, it's amazing we ever made it up the hills. Besides hating that van but it was the best way to keep gear safe as we would be out all day.
