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"You should buy 'Merican!" Comeback/Retort thread :cool:

I had a pretty funny encounter with who is otherwise a pretty smart dude, and it occurred to me that there isn't a thread here focused on shutting down those idiots who hide behind 'made in USA' stereotypes. So here it is, lets compile the dialog we've used to ward off those people so that we can all be armed to educate and feel good doing it.

With this guy I've already exhausted my ammunition from the standpoint of our trucks being made in USA with a higher ratio of American parts than most. I've been sure to include that Toyota has never needed money-grubbing, politician-controlling, bailout-raping unions in the first place, and thus never ended up losing $3000 per vehicle sold. And so has never taken tax-dollars ripped from our wallets without consent, meant to fuel their revival, and turned around and begin plans for a plant in CHINA (GM). And Toyota sure as hell wouldn't take tax money from an escrow account set up as part of a government bailout and use it to payoff a $7 billion balance on the ONLY part of the bailout considered to be a LOAN (most is tied up in under performing stocks). And then spend millions more to run an ad campaign, pretty much saying 'Hey! thanks for the second chance America! See? We've already paid off the government bailout loans!', trying to fool the public into thinking everything was square and the bailout was worth it! (GM)

But I grossly digress. I pinpointed a new weakness in the logic of the blindly faithful, observe:

Co-worker: "How do I know any of what you're saying is based on fact?"
Me: "Look it all up, I'll write all my points down for you. Email me some counter-evidence or something."
Co-worker: "I'm not putting legwork into this, I've got better things to do at home."
Me: "Yeah dude, like finger-bang the first fat chick who'll let you at Walmart before you leave every other day."
Co-worker: "You know it, it's why love getting groceries, and I always find one before I leave the parking lot!" (I pray you've picked up on the mood change to sarcasm)
Me: "How often do you really go there? I swear I never remember everything and end up going back throughout the week for little things."
Co-worker: "Oh same here."
Me: "I must put at least $600 a month into that store."
Co-worker: "Try $800, avoid a wife and kids if you like money..."
Me: "Shit, that must be double your truck payment, and it's pretty well known that over %80 of the goods sold there are manufactured overseas. So, lest you be considered a hypocrite, you should probably shut the f_u_c_k up about my Japanese pickup with more American-made parts than you're Chevy that I helped pay to make possible."

The reason I went into detail here is because you have to execute this argument carefully. Your potential victim of irony, might sense where you're going if you just go right into asking him or her where they shop. You need a segue way free of suspicion, extra cool-points if it lightens the mood. And once they admit to regular non-american purchases close to car payment territory, you get to make sh!t powerfully real.

But yeah, I'm very interested in starting a hub for this kind of stuff, maybe even ascending to sticky-thread status. If you have anything to share, be it a funny story or a one-liner, I hope to see it!
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I was leaving my grandma's BBQ once getting into my truck when a neighbor half jokingly shouted out that I shoulda bought a Dodge. I said I used to own one, and now I own a Toyota. Who's fault did he think THAT was. There was no reply.

The cost of fuel to operate a 6000 pound 400 horsepower half ton that does 0-60 in under 7 seconds is kind of like the price of oil changes for a Porche 911. If you have to ask you probably can't afford it.
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Aren't the Dodge 1/2 tons built in Saltillo, Mexico?

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I have told people that my truck is built in the US. Then I get the "But all the profits go to Japan."

To me this makes absolutely no sense. Certainly some of it does, but I would think the labor to build a vehicle would be one of the biggest expenses. And where does that go? To the people in the US that work at the factory. Not to mention the money made be the selling dealerships.

So no, all the profits do not go to Japan.

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I have told people that my truck is built in the US. Then I get the "But all the profits go to Japan."

To me this makes absolutely no sense. Certainly some of it does, but I would think the labor to build a vehicle would be one of the biggest expenses. And where does that go? To the people in the US that work at the factory. Not to mention the money made be the selling dealerships.

So no, all the profits do not go to Japan.
I used to hear that all the time, "check where the stocks go". Well, do you think for one minute that the people who own a billion dollars in GM stocks keep and spend their money in the US? No, they all have Swiss bank accounts, and are constantly on vacation in foreign countries... So, paying Mexicans (or Canadians) to build trucks is better than paying Americans to build trucks, because the top 1% get to keep their money overseas anyway? Yup...

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Tundras are built in texas i believe, right?
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Yes.
The Tundra is assembled in Texas, with parts made by domestic companies.
I couldn't care less who owns the company.
All I know is that by building this truck here and buying 80% of the parts for it, from U.S. companies,
they are putting food on a lot of American tables.

It would be nice to see MORE foreign companies move here and create jobs,
since all the companies here, seem be moving out or putting the workers in other countries to work.

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I have told people that my truck is built in the US. Then I get the "But all the profits go to Japan."
Being in the accounting world, hearing 'all the profits go to Japan' from some hillbilly yokel that would pass on a $15 American-made toaster at the local Sears for the $8 Chinese piece of crap sold at the China-Mart down the road is like sandpaper grating on my spinal cord.

It shows complete ignorance of how publicly held corporations function. Toyota (TM - Toyota Motor Corp Stock quote - CNNMoney.com) is a publicly traded company. American pension funds, mutual funds, and individual investors are buying/selling shares of it all the time. The profits (capital gains, and dividends if/when they ever declare them) can go to YOU. Just open a retail trading account and you can buy a few/hundred/thousand shares at a time and YOU will have equity in Toyota. If capitalism isn't American, then I don't know what is.

On top of that Toyota invested over a billion dollars on AMERICAN soil to build those plants which build those Tundras using AMERICAN labor in Texas. Those AMERICAN families working at those facilities pay Federal, state, and local taxes supporting AMERICAN infrastructure. They take out mortgages on AMERICAN plots of land. They patronize AMERICAN small business owners in their communities.

On top of that they're sourcing 75% of their parts here in AMERICA, from corporations both big and small, each employing additional AMERICANS up the supply chain.

Those Tundras are sold at AMERICAN dealerships nationwide, which employ AMERICAN salespeople, mechanics, techs, and support staff. They're shuffling dollars between themselves and the local economies, keeping the AMERICAN economic engine running.

Seriously, it's almost 2013, and these types of people are making me wish the Mayans are right. If you're still so xenophobic to the point where you claim the Tundra is a "fuggin' ferrin-er" truck, consider a vasectomy before you pollute humanity's gene pool any further. And on second note, keep that tacky Calvin-pissing-on-the-Toyota-logo window sticker. It helps us to more easily identify your dumb ass in public so we can make sure not to associate with you.

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Seriously, it's almost 2013, and these types of people are making me wish the Mayans are right. If you're still so xenophobic to the point where you claim the Tundra is a "fuggin' ferrin-er" truck, consider a vasectomy before you pollute humanity's gene pool any further. And on second note, keep that tacky Calvin-pissing-on-the-Toyota-logo window sticker. It helps us to more easily identify your dumb ass in public so we can make sure not to associate with you.
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I have a fishing buddy that retired from FORD and drives an F150. He got pissed so when I told him that the Tundra had more American sourced parts than his FORD I thought he was going to throw me out of the boat. My usual defense of owning a Toyota is that I have owned Chevy, Ford, and Dodge and all of them were pieces of crap and they lost my business. (I have been slutting around though...the new 2013 RAM looks sweet)
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Dodge boy: You should have bought American.
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Dodge boy: Check your emblems chief.
Myself: Check your door jamb.
Dodge boy: What the *uck is in a door jamb?
Myself: A mexican address.

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