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I did my first oil filter change on my truck, conventional to synthetic. Went with Mobil1 5w-20 and a factory cartridge. I will change again in another 5k to flush out the Dino oil residue and the sludge that will break loose. I'll see what Toyota's stance is on the 10k interval at that time.

If I still need to change every 5k, that's ok. The procedure was not the mess that some made it out to be and total cost was $41 by doing it myself. I do have the confidence of using a better lube. Next on the list, switch the t-case and diff fluids.

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I did my first oil filter change on my truck, conventional to synthetic. Went with Mobil1 5w-20 and a factory cartridge. I will change again in another 5k to flush out the Dino oil residue and the sludge that will break loose. I'll see what Toyota's stance is on the 10k interval at that time.

If I still need to change every 5k, that's ok. The procedure was not the mess that some made it out to be and total cost was $41 by doing it myself. I do have the confidence of using a better lube. Next on the list, switch the t-case and diff fluids.
So, you found mobil 1 synthetic oil for under 5 bucks per qt.? I did see mobil 1 in the 5 qt. jug at walmart for 26 bucks, but rarely, if ever, find it under 5 bucks per qt. plus the toyota oil filter is around 5 bucks at my dealer. 41 bucks is pretty cheap, must have found the oil on sale? As far as changing the oil every 5K, I'd let it go longer with full synthetic since both oil and filter will go 8K no problems but would not push 10K no matter what toyota states probably ever 5K oil changes with 2010 model. Why are you changing the transfer case and diff. fluids unless you have over 50-60K and hard on engine? I'd let both go well over 60K, but before 75K, but that is just me. What does owners manual state the change on those 2 fluids should be??
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So, you found mobil 1 synthetic oil for under 5 bucks per qt.? I did see mobil 1 in the 5 qt. jug at walmart for 26 bucks, but rarely, if ever, find it under 5 bucks per qt. plus the toyota oil filter is around 5 bucks at my dealer. 41 bucks is pretty cheap, must have found the oil on sale? As far as changing the oil every 5K, I'd let it go longer with full synthetic since both oil and filter will go 8K no problems but would not push 10K no matter what toyota states probably ever 5K oil changes with 2010 model. Why are you changing the transfer case and diff. fluids unless you have over 50-60K and hard on engine? I'd let both go well over 60K, but before 75K, but that is just me. What does owners manual state the change on those 2 fluids should be??
I decided to switch to synthetic when I saw it at Costco for $36+tax less a $10 rebate per 6pk ($5qt) and about $4.21 per filter. I bought three cases, enough to do two changes plus.

I have been reading posts about diff fluid changes and some like to change it early. I don't know how the original owner drove for the first 21k miles. Another easy project for peace of mind.

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fyi - all 2010 tundras like my 5.7L and your 5.7L take 7.9 qts. until full not 7.5 qts. like past year tundras took. 8 qts. x $5 +4 oil filter = 44 bucks. I put in 7.5 qts. which is about 1/2 way between upper and lower dots on dipstick and probably could take the full 8 qts. since I let my warm oil drip out for at least 30 minutes vs. a dealer taking 5 minutes tops thus getting out another 1-2 ounces of old oil. Still good deal though at 5 bucks per qt. and to get the toyota OEM oil filter for 4.21 at a dealer is a steal. Most toyota dealers in our area are pushing 6 bucks each for the oil filter, still pretty cheap though.
Like I said, no matter what toyota dealer states or mfg., if using full 100% synthetic oil, I would change my oil around the 8,000 mile since no sludge or buildup whatsoever will be present and the toyota oil filter and synthetic oil will have no problems lasting 8K. If going to still do oil changes every 5K, just wasting your time and money and might as well stick to regular oil costing 21 bucks (for me) total to do an oil change.

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fyi - all 2010 tundras like my 5.7L and your 5.7L take 7.9 qts. until full not 7.5 qts. like past year tundras took. 8 qts. x $5 +4 oil filter = 44 bucks. .
Haha, cookiedough are you a teacher? I feel like I took a math quiz and I'm being penalized for not showing my work. Costco had the Mobil1 for 36.56/cs of 6 plus CA tax makes it 39.39. Add .43 for the CA oil fee = 39.82 - $10 rebate = $29.82 for a case of 6. $4.97/qt x 7.5 is $37.27 plus the filter at $4.21 and a drain plug gasket at $.89 makes it $42.37 for the oil change. You are actually right, by the time I add the tall boy for a job well done I am actually over $44. Just having fun with you.

It would certainly cost less to use conventional oil at 5k but I think $42 for synthetic is worth it. I would love to hear something official from Toyota that I can extend the interval though, but till then, I'm good.

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rbeech, just razzing you on the few bucks as you already probably know. No, not a teacher, but like to crunch the numbers since I do office clerical/accounting work. Just really wanted to make sure you know the 2010 tundra totally full of oil takes 7.9 qts. and not 7.5 qts. as in previous year tundras like 07 and 08 models that I know of did. Hey, whatever you use is fine with me and toyota using now in 2012 exclusively synthetic oil is going to put a damper on some people like me who knows for a fact that the 2012 tundra does not need synthetic oil to make it last 200K+ miles. I change oil every 5K miles using regular oil and if I do get a 2012 tundra, at least the first 2 yrs./25K oil changes using synthetic oil is covered by toyota care along with every 5K tire rotations. Still trying to find out if toyota (or dealer) will honor full synthetic oil changes thru toyota care free factory maintenance every 5,000 miles if I tell dealer i use E85 about 5-10% of the time which in reality does not make it 'severe duty' schedule since what I get out of 'severe duty' schedule maintenance is ONLY if you use E85 gas 50% or greater then must change oil every 2500 miles.
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Kind of a double post, but I'm looking for some feedback in this thread, from some of you oil guru's:

I figured I'd post my first UOA in here looking for some feedback.

This is the first time I've done an oil analysis. This oil was Mobil 1 5w-20, and I put about 4,800 miles on the oil. They said the TBN was 3.0, which is good I guess. They recommended not jumping up to 10k oil changes yet, but I should be good to go to 7k miles. I replaced this Mobil 1 with Amsoil Signature Series 5w-20, and will do an analysis on that at 5k miles, and see what they say. Really hoping to be able to get up to 10k oil changes...I don't know what these numbers mean, so feel free to chime in.


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baddadtundra: You never really said above if your mobil1 5w-20 is full synthetic, semi-synthetic or regular conventional oil. If regular oil, then 5K no more. If synthetic, I am a little surprised mobil1 they do not recommend 10K or at least 8K but 7K is not very good since according to Amsoil, their oil I think is guaranteed to last 15K if not more easily no problems and I know mobil1 synthetic oil is good oil, maybe not as good as Amsoil, but also not 8 bucks per qt. either like Amsoil is.
Please let us know how the Amsoil oil pans out at either 5K or 7K. I would think your analysis then should easily state you should easily be able to go 10K between oil changes. If not, then Amsoil is fibbing on 15K if not up to 20K between oil changes no problems.
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Hey, just heard back from corp. toyota on 2012 oil changes which according to a 2012 owners manual still states 5K oil changes with NO mention of ow-20 synthetic now used in 2012 5.7L tundras. At first, they stated synthetic oil on 5.7L is 10K oil changes, now they say this which proves the schedule maint. guide on 2012 tundras is still every 5K:

Dear Mr. K...;

Thank you for your patience.

We have confirmed that the Flex Fuel Tundra and Sequoia should adhere to a 5,000-mile interval for oil changes (2,500 miles if using flex fuel more than half the time), though the vehicle uses synthetic oil. Our resources indicate that the ToyotaCare complimentary maintenance program will cover the cost of five synthetic oil changes.

If we may be of further assistance, please contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, and from 7 AM to 4 PM Saturday.

We have documented your comments at our National Headquarters.

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Response (Rob Browning) 02/28/2012 09:39 AM
Dear Mr. K...;

Upon further review of the Scheduled Maintenance Guide (SMG), we recognize what you are calling attention to. While the default oil change interval for all engines using synthetic oil is 10,000 miles, the SMG refers back to a 5,000 mile interval if not using flex fuel more than half the operating time. What remains unclear is that the SMG does not appear to acknowledge or mention the use of synthetic oil.

We are making efforts to further research this. However, as it stands, we would be in a position to concur with the SMG as printed, following either a 5,000-mile or 2,500-mile interval.

If we may be of further assistance, please contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, and from 7 AM to 4 PM Saturday.

We have documented your comments at our National Headquarters.

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Sorry, the Mobil 1 was the synthetic. I assume fully synthetic, since there was no mention of blend? It's the $6-7/qt Mobil 1 that is sold everywhere.

One of my reasons for doing these analysis is to put to rest the Mobil 1 vs. Amsoil top of the line oil debate. If the amsoil analysis turns out to be very good, with more life in the oil, then I have no problem praising it publicly. If it fails to show better results than the M1, then I will post that too. I may forget about this thread 6-7 months from now, so I'll probably post a new thread. If amsoil performs as it should, then $8-10/qt vs. $6/qt M1 is a no brainer.
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good deal, I will be very interested to see in 6 months how the Amsoil oil analysis turns out if an independent lab states 10K no problems between oil changes or not. Everyone I talk to states Amsoil is the best hands down and no problems going even above 10K intervals on oil changes, but we will see. I use Amsoil ONLY for my ATV taking 2 1/2 qts. and my Honda cycle taking 3.9 qts. since I only change oil on each of these at most once per year and with only putting on about 500 miles tops on my ATV, if that, the local Amsoil distributor states I am throwing money out the door and 2-3 years no problems on same Amsoil oil, but I worry about the oil filter paper elements lasting much more than 1 year. I like Amsoil and think it is great oil personally, but at 8-9 bucks per qt. with prices going up annually it seems, they are almost pricing themselves out of the market if you ask me.
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I have had my truck for a year and only changed the oil 2x. I use AMSOIL as well, 5/20 every 5,000 miles. No issues so far. Won't use any other oil, either.
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I've got a 2012 5.7 nonflex...and the dealer is only changing my oil every 10,000, but they do ask that I bring it in every 5k here is a screen shot of my service record so far

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Hey, just heard back from corp. toyota on 2012 oil changes which according to a 2012 owners manual still states 5K oil changes with NO mention of ow-20 synthetic now used in 2012 5.7L tundras. At first, they stated synthetic oil on 5.7L is 10K oil changes, now they say this which proves the schedule maint. guide on 2012 tundras is still every 5K:

Dear Mr. K...;

Thank you for your patience.

We have confirmed that the Flex Fuel Tundra and Sequoia should adhere to a 5,000-mile interval for oil changes (2,500 miles if using flex fuel more than half the time), though the vehicle uses synthetic oil. Our resources indicate that the ToyotaCare complimentary maintenance program will cover the cost of five synthetic oil changes.

If we may be of further assistance, please contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, and from 7 AM to 4 PM Saturday.

We have documented your comments at our National Headquarters.

Robert Browning
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Response (Rob Browning) 02/28/2012 09:39 AM
Dear Mr. K...;

Upon further review of the Scheduled Maintenance Guide (SMG), we recognize what you are calling attention to. While the default oil change interval for all engines using synthetic oil is 10,000 miles, the SMG refers back to a 5,000 mile interval if not using flex fuel more than half the operating time. What remains unclear is that the SMG does not appear to acknowledge or mention the use of synthetic oil.

We are making efforts to further research this. However, as it stands, we would be in a position to concur with the SMG as printed, following either a 5,000-mile or 2,500-mile interval.

If we may be of further assistance, please contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, and from 7 AM to 4 PM Saturday.

We have documented your comments at our National Headquarters.

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Re: Oil Change

I am a user over at Bobistheoilguy and I cannot recommend enough for for you guys to over there and read the used oil analysis pages. One of the newest favorites is Quaker State Ultimate Durability or QSUD. It is a full synthetic and I get it at WMart for $21 for a 5qt jug. I have been running it in place of Mobil 1 and I cannot tell a difference.

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