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#16 (permalink) Old 01-24-2012, 03:59 PM
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That's just stupid for that price, I would walk out and say no thanks... You can buy a Walker or Magnaflow Catalytic Converter off of eBay, all you will need to do is find out the pipe size and get the exact same size inlet/outlet cat. converter and have it installed on your truck.
Ca has laws regarding that, too. Cats for sale in Ca now have identification codes on them. If the ID code on a replacement converter doesn't match the application, you fail smog. We had to turn in all of our catalytic converters and buy ones with the ID codes.
I'm not sure how well this is being enforced. Even many parts stores are not aware of it.

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"Cal Converter sells only CALIFORNIA LEGAL CARB-Approved products which are legal for use in all 50 States including California. Every catalytic converter listed on our site has the required C.A.R.B. Executive Order number marked directly on the shell, as required by California law. Cal Converter is your source for the best quality direct-fit replacement catalytic converters and oxygen sensors at discount prices.

For vehicles registered in the state of California Catalytic Converters must be certified by CARB (the California Air Resource Board) to be sold, used or distributed for use on any motor vehicle that is registered in the state of California.

CARB was established in 1967 as a watch dog to hold California emissions to higher standards than the other 49 states of the USA .Because CARB pre-dates the Federal Clean Air Act of 1969 California is the only state permitted to enforce their own emissions standards. In most cases cars equipped with a California emissions system run cleaner than vehicles with a 49 state or federal emissions system. As of 1996 many states have upgraded their standards to California standards emission systems for new vehicles sold in that state. Not all of our catalytic converters that are listed for 'California' emissions vehicles are CARB certified. Example: If your vehicle is registered in another state than California with California emissions from the factory on catalytic converters we have listed with 'California emissions' that are Non-CARB certified we are unable sell them into into the state of California. As of 1994 California has adapted OBD II (2) 'On Board Diagnostic' type emissions and engine management systems. From model year 1996 all 50 states have ODB II(2) type emissions and engine management systems.

California state law only permits us to sell catalytic converters that are CARB certified into the state of California for personal use, auto parts stores, installers or automotive shops. The catalytic converter must have a CARB ID code or stamp on it to be sold into the state of California for personal use or installation by an installer. We are unable to accept any order from a California on Non-CARB certified catalytic converter. If you place an order from the state of California on a Non-CARB certified catalytic converter your order will be canceled and your method of payment refunded."


Things are just plain out of hand here in Ca.

If you can find a CARB compliant cat online, I totally agree with Josh. Let the insurance Co write you a $2000 check, then weld in one of the aftermarket units.

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........another reason not to live in cali....not that there already weren't enough reasons (pelosi et.al., etc.)

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........another reason not to live in cali....not that there already weren't enough reasons (pelosi et.al., etc.)

It is 70 degrees outside right now.

That's the only reason I can think of.
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LOL...its 79 degrees here...wish it was about 4 degrees cooler, but can't complain
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LOL...its 79 degrees here...wish it was about 4 degrees cooler, but can't complain
I'd totally move to Florida if it weren't for those pesky hurricanes.
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so after talking to my cousin who owns a smog shop here in cali, he told me to get the OEM one or im gonna have problems with smog later. called my insurance to put in a claim so expenses are going to be paid, well besides my deductible of $100 which isnt nearly as bad as $2200. the shop im taking it too will also take it to a local muffler shop they work with and have them weld in a wire to prevent from happening again(hopefully). thanks for the all the input guys! ill take a pic of the new wire weld once i get my truck back.


and i did try to find a local shop to do the rear cat delete. that was fail. everyone i called said they dont do illegal work and brought up all the fines and penalities the shop and yourself would face. so if your in cali, guess itll be best to just keep them on. seems the benefit is only sound anyways.

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where do you park a truck that you can't hear someone with a saw cutting your exhaust apart? that's crazy it can happen. I am glad I live in a state where you can defend your property.
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where do you park a truck that you can't hear someone with a saw cutting your exhaust apart? that's crazy it can happen. I am glad I live in a state where you can defend your property.
I own an exhaust tubing cutter that uses about 8 rotary cutters. Hand operated and silent. Some use this, but 30 seconds with a portable sawzall and they own it. Most are taken with a battery powered sawzall.
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$2200. the shop im taking it too will also take it to a local muffler shop they work with and have them weld in a wire to prevent from happening again(hopefully).
tell me more about welding a wire in to keep it from happening again please.

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where do you park a truck that you can't hear someone with a saw cutting your exhaust apart? that's crazy it can happen. I am glad I live in a state where you can defend your property.
It was at my works parking lot. Kaiser hospital.

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tell me more about welding a wire in to keep it from happening again please.
Not sure how they weld the wire but the guy says it wraps around the cat converters and piping so the saw would just bounce back if your trying to cut it. Can't say for sure yet though. I have to wait til I get my truck back and update you on it along with photos.

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I own an exhaust tubing cutter that uses about 8 rotary cutters. Hand operated and silent. Some use this, but 30 seconds with a portable sawzall and they own it. Most are taken with a battery powered sawzall.
How much does something like that run? But yeah the process of getting your cats jacked can be done in under a min.

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How much does something like that run? But yeah the process of getting your cats jacked can be done in under a min.

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Your cousin is right about the cat. The factory cats contain a lot more precious metal. They work better and last longer.....and cost more.
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Your cousin is right about the cat. The factory cats contain a lot more precious metal. They work better and last longer.....and cost more.
i heard that toyota's and nissan's cat converters contain the most platinum of them all and thats y thieves target them. yeah i could take the insurance money and go another route but since my deductible is only $100 i might as well go the right route and save myself the problems later down the road. the shop is going to let me keep the front half of my cat converter so maybe i can sell that and get my deductible back and take the wire/welding job as a plus to the situation. haha

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