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Mike. Sorry to hear about all that. We had an officer murdered a few years ago, and the pos tried the same thing about the mental incompetency bs. Try to stay positive for your fallen brother.
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PROfane- not sure which model Glock you had. We just got new Gen 4's and they are nice. We had some guys that just couldn't qualify and the slight changes definitely helped. I'm a Glock guy, but that's all I know so I'm not knocking others.


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Might be off topic a bit, but wanted to take a minute and write up a thank you for those in law enforcement. Military (former Marine here) and firefighters seem to be taking up all the recognition and media, but law enforcement always seems to get the negative sides.

Even those that don't like law enforcement (yes, I had plenty of run ins in the past, known by first name among many in different states), always will call police when something I call a life changing event happens.

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PROfane- not sure which model Glock you had. We just got new Gen 4's and they are nice. We had some guys that just couldn't qualify and the slight changes definitely helped. I'm a Glock guy, but that's all I know so I'm not knocking others.
Ill be honest, new officers got the old gen 2 beat up ones. My dad has a some and my wife has a few. Like i said before, fine pistol just not for me. I rather carry a sig pro over any other polymer.


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i carry a smith and wesson m&p .45 on duty and a .40 compact m&p off duty concealed...i love both of these guns. my dad shoots a glock, not sure model, but its a .40 and its a nice gun also...i just prefer the m&ps

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i carry a smith and wesson m&p .45 on duty and a .40 compact m&p off duty concealed...i love both of these guns. my dad shoots a glock, not sure model, but its a .40 and its a nice gun also...i just prefer the m&ps
The M&P seems to be more gentle with .40 and .45 than others. Tossed a G19 after buying the 9c model.
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IMHO heavy trigger pulls start to cause problems at 10 or 15 yards and out. At closer ranges you can put the rounds where they need to go even if you are not perfectly smooth. Once you get a little further out if the rounds are going out at the wrong trajectory the effect on where your group shows up gets amplified. When people cannot master a smooth pull on a heavy trigger that is when the group drops from center mass to the groin. Proper trigger technique fixes it but a lighter trigger leaves less room and time for error.

Alot of federal agencies and a few state and local ones do 12 or 12.5 pound trigger pulls for liability reasons, to try to prevent accidental discharge. Also a reason it will be real hard to find any federal agencies that do single action and probably not alot of state or local agencies do either. The flip side is they then have alot of people struggling to over-come it and avoid jerking the gun during timed drills at 15 yards and beyond. It is possible to maintain the same shooting proficiency but it requires more technique and fine motor skills, the exact things that go away when the bullets fly for real.

I think the main effect is it tends to put shots low. If your shots are going left or right you probably have problems related to technique and not necessarily to the weight of the trigger. When the rounds go left or right it is probably an issue with your grip, or else that you are pulling the trigger with your whole hand.

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