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Complete A/V Overhaul in 2012 DoubleCab

Fellas - this is the 1st time I've ever posted anything in a forum. I thought I'd share my upcoming project with many pictures to come. I have a 2012 double cab non JBL system. I was shocked to find out how crappy the factory system actually was. After 2+ months of reading reviews and opinions at nausea, I have ordered the following gear, and hope to have it all here by the weekend. All the speakers match the impedance and load values of the amp, theoretically it should be a well tuned/balanced system. My goal is not to compete with teenagers, however, being in my 30's I still love to feel the music when the "need" presents itself. My goal is to have a complete sound-stage consisting of lows mid and highs. I found the cheapest price on all the gear I chose, hence the multiple vendors (I default to Crutchfield when their prices are competitive, great service). I plan to shoot pics throughout the install, hope you all can learn from my mistakes Let me know if I'm forgetting anything.

-I'm not interested in the rear camera being displayed on the head unit.
-No need for SiriusXM
-HDRadio is built into the new head unit
-I would like to use the factory mic, but don't want to start hacking the wires too much so I'm going to try the mic that comes with the head unit 1st.
-I'm an iPhone guy, the wife is Android, so I'll be hacking at both.
-I stream a lot of Pandora and TuneIn radio via my phone.
-All of my wiring and connectors will come from a local distributor.
-I will use existing factory speaker wires.

These are old Pics, my windows are now blacked out.






Head unit - Pioneer AVH-P8400BH - 499.99 (Crutchfield)
Dash kit & wire harness included


Steering Wheel Control interface - PAC SWI-RC - 40.75 (Amazon)


Video bypass (allows DVDs to be played while driving) - 19.99 (Amazon)


5 Channel Amp - Alpine PDX-V9 - 468.00 (Amazon)


Remote Sub Woofer Knob - Alpine RUX-KNOB - 29.99 (Crutchfield)


Shallow Mount 10" Subs - Kenwood Excelon KFC-XW1000F - 72.99 x 2 (Amazon)


Under Rear Seat Speaker Box - 104.85 (eBay)


Front Speakers and Tweeters - Kenwood KFC-X1730P - 149.99 (Amazon)


Rear Speakers (2way) - Kenwood KFC-X1730 - 64.95 (Amazon)


Front Speaker Mounts - 12.99 (Crutchfield)


Rear Speaker Mounts - 9.99 (Crutchfield)


Cable Adapters (pair) - 9.99 x 2 (Crutchfield)
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I would opt for the Metra ASWC and not the PAC steering wheel interface.

I have installed both (in Tundra's), and the Metra is far better (especially with the bluetooth steering wheel phone controls). It's worth the extra $5-6 (on Amazon). There is significant button "lag" with the PAC units.

You are missing sound-deadening. If you have Amazon Prime, this is a VERY good deal (when you factor in free 2-day shipping):
Amazon.com: Stinger RKX36B Expert Bulk Pack: Electronics Amazon.com: Stinger RKX36B Expert Bulk Pack: Electronics
I'd recommend a bulk pack (or two) for your doors (at the very least), the back wall, floor, etc.

I have used that with great success and it's quality material (butyl-based; very easy to work with).

Not sure how deep those components are, but here's an idea of how much space you have to work with in the front door (I made 1-1/4" spacers):


Your equipment looks good.
Have fun!

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Very nice! I plan on doing the same thing very shortly. I'm still debating on which headunit to go with but I've narrowed it down to Pioneer or Kenwood. I'm leaning toward Kenwood because of the Garmin GPS that Kenwood uses.
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Isn't the 8400 last years model, 5500bhs is this years, same price and probably has better quality display and apps

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I just picked up the AVH-X5500BHS and would really recommend that for the same price as the AVH-P8400. The 5500 doesn't have a removeable faceplate but it does have everything else that the 8400 has along with a much better display and full Android support for Pandora. The 8400 will let you stream music from an Android phone but you woun't have full control of Pandora from the deck or be able to have any of the information such as what Pandora station you are listening to, what the name of the song is, and what album it came off of. I also put the same bypass on mine that you have listed and it works great. I don't have any experience with the Kenwood components or subs so I don't know what you are in for there. The enclosure you got is 1.69 cubic feet of airspace which translates to just over .84 per sub so you want to make sure that the Kenwood subs will be OK with that much airspace.
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Looks like this should be a fun install.. sure to be a huge improvement over stock. +1 on doing a little sound deadening while you are at it. Personally I would run my own speaker wires, but that is a personal preference.

Looking forward to more pics!
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I just picked up the AVH-X5500BHS and would really recommend that for the same price as the AVH-P8400. The 5500 doesn't have a removeable faceplate but it does have everything else that the 8400 has along with a much better display and full Android support for Pandora. The 8400 will let you stream music from an Android phone but you woun't have full control of Pandora from the deck or be able to have any of the information such as what Pandora station you are listening to, what the name of the song is, and what album it came off of. I also put the same bypass on mine that you have listed and it works great. I don't have any experience with the Kenwood components or subs so I don't know what you are in for there. The enclosure you got is 1.69 cubic feet of airspace which translates to just over .84 per sub so you want to make sure that the Kenwood subs will be OK with that much airspace.
loknload - thanks for the feedback. The displays on both units are identical.... 6.95" TFT Active Matrix, 16:9 widescreen, 800 x 480 (RGB), for a total of 1,152,000 pixels....(it was the 4400 that had the crappy display) there is no difference, and i am a fan of the detachable face. Both have A2DP and AVRCP bluetooth capability. 5500 pairs to 3 devices, 8400 to 5. The only noticeable difference i can determine is the 5500 has high pass and low pass crossovers. After reading your post i questioned my decision, went back and examined all the guts of the HU's. I'm not sure I can say the 5500 is a better unit. Having had my system jacked from a prior truck, I'm going to stick with the 8400 and keep the detachable face. Again, thanks for the feedback, though. (sorry, after proof reading my post, i kinda geeked out there for a sec)
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Looks like this should be a fun install.. sure to be a huge improvement over stock. +1 on doing a little sound deadening while you are at it. Personally I would run my own speaker wires, but that is a personal preference.

Looking forward to more pics!
KRAZYK - you're the 2nd person recommending the sound deadening. I have zero experience with it. After watching some online videos it looks fairly simple. Is it something that is noticably better? All 4 doors and under the carpet?
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Fair enough. When I was looking, I almost bought the 8400 but I couldn't find confirmation that it had full wireless Pandora support for anything but iphone and I'm an Android user. I also prefer using the crossovers in the deck and I don't think I own 3 devices to pair with it. The 8400 sounds like it will work great for you and it is a nice unit.
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KRAZYK - you're the 2nd person recommending the sound deadening. I have zero experience with it. After watching some online videos it looks fairly simple. Is it something that is noticably better? All 4 doors and under the carpet?
I had no experience with it until recently when I did a full audio install with an FR-S. It is not that hard just takes time to really work the material onto the metal. The sub went in the trunk so I stripped out all of the trim and really went to town. I think it made a big difference - truck lid had a more solid "Thunk" and when the sub was really hitting hard you didnt hear much rattling outside of the car.

When I get around to doing my install for the Tundra.. I will use alot of it - and some CCF (closed cell foam) to keep the road noise out, and the audio in.

Alot of videos you see people completely cover the panel in the rattle trap / dynamat / fatmat (w/e you go with). I think that is overkill.. I used more of a spot treatment and I think I got close to the same result. The CCF is where you wanna completely cover the door and such.
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i got the same truck, looking foward to doing some audio stuff to it....after i get the lift done.

let us know how ur process goes!

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Deaden all 4 doors, and the bulk of the floor pan, and all of the rear wall behind the seat.

It will drastically reduce road noise, and vibration. Not to mention it lowers the resonance of the doors for your speakers.

Also, look into Raammat, or fatmat. I bought fatmat on sale and doubled up the layers for the same cost as most others, and with 2 layers it was thicker than a single layer from anyone else. Worked great ans was easy.




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Some of the same

There is an 8500 now from pioneer. I have the 8400 and detachable was my main deal. No garage at my house. I have had two issues with the 8400. I've called pioneer twice. iPhone with the updated cord I bought for 50 bucks will not show the apps on the radio from my phone. iPod works etc...... But not the apps. They want me to call warranty dept. and try to get another cord. Tech seems to think that is the issue.
The other issue which is minor really, the axxess steering wheel controls are not set up like my original buttons were before changing everything. But it is fine AND I think I can manually program it the way I want to be.
I bought those same speaker adapter plates for front and back doors. You should have clearance for your speakers from the window brackets.
Also that bypass relay works great no issues.

I just did my system so I thought I'd give a heads up while its still fresh in my memory banks.
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