On the day that The General announces involuntary gastric bypass surgery at the hands of Dr. O and while Crash Cart Chrysler waltzes with the Grim Reaper, not all is well with Toyota. The nosy newsmen at Boston’s ABC affiliate exposed a nasty little secret hiding under Toyota’s hospital gown. Yesterday Team 5 divulged “more than two dozen complaints filed with the National Highway Traffic Administration” regarding 2001 and 2002 model year Tundra frames that are rusting and blowing away. Today Toyota implied responsibility when they offered to buy back the rust buckets at full retail value. Keep in mind that this issue is limited to certain areas of the USA and Canada where salt is used as the predominant ice melting material.
They bought Tacomas back for 1.5x blue book value.
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Do not mention his name here. He spits on us and talks crap and you're directing people to him from our site? I don't think so. I know you're neutral and that's fine, but please do not mention him here.
Thank God my 2000 does not have this problem. But it is protected, does not see salt every winter, so not a fair comparison. I have seen some very nasty frames in the 1G years. This problem is not limited to 2000-2001, so take care of your drivetrain. Still a great truck, but, I do wonder why they do not apply better protection at the factory, even if it costs $250 a truck. Spend 30-40K for a truck, you expect it to last and I am sure no one would complain about the $250 or whatever it would cost to protect it.
__________________ 2000 Tundra 4.7L TRD Limited 4x4 Red Pearl (23.1k Original Miles)
For pics of some detail on my ride, check out some of the pics in my gallery or my cardomain location.
I for one agree they should not rust so soon, but yet here we go, bash Toyota. Lets bash your local and state municipalities for being cheap.
Heck if they abandoned the use of salt and used some of the alternatives they could make up the cost easily on the cost of road repair, and filtering drinking water ( it goes in there: farmers hate it because it alters the soils composition ). Surprised after all these years and all kinds of issue with rust on all kinds of vehicles that people haven't figured out this simple concept.
I for one agree they should not rust so soon, but yet here we go, bash Toyota.
I do not think anyone is bashing Toyota here, heck, you are reading the comments of people that "care" about their Toyotas. The solution to me is too simple...protect it at the factory, and assume the new owner lives in the snow belt or will put this puppy in mud or water almost every weekend. Not too difficult as I see it.
We do salt spray tests on many of our products to determine life cycle (hrs) under very extreme conditions. That is how you determine expected life cycle under "x" time. Toyota is smarting than us and needs to get away from "unit cost" and focus on "warranty costs". Long story on that subject, but, throwing it out there. I have exposure to that type of data (proprietary) but, it is JMO.
Still a Toyota supporter and we have many in our Family. We expect the best, that is all, and we want Toyota to stay at the top! Hell, I am not going back to the other options out there.
__________________ 2000 Tundra 4.7L TRD Limited 4x4 Red Pearl (23.1k Original Miles)
For pics of some detail on my ride, check out some of the pics in my gallery or my cardomain location.
When I bought mine, I insisted on the undercoating and the stealership thought I was nuts. I told them it was a deal breaker otherwise, so they threw it in. Since my GF lives in SW VA, I do get to see some snow and they definately use salt, so I am thankful I stuck to my guns.
Got under it when installing the nerf bars, it is actually almost like the line-x, real thick, black spray.
Hope it works, it is guaranteed.
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I do not think anyone is bashing Toyota here, heck, you are reading the comments of people that "care" about their Toyotas. The solution to me is too simple...protect it at the factory, and assume the new owner lives in the snow belt or will put this puppy in mud or water almost every weekend. Not too difficult as I see it.
We do salt spray tests on many of our products to determine life cycle (hrs) under very extreme conditions. That is how you determine expected life cycle under "x" time. Toyota is smarting than us and needs to get away from "unit cost" and focus on "warranty costs". Long story on that subject, but, throwing it out there. I have exposure to that type of data (proprietary) but, it is JMO.
Still a Toyota supporter and we have many in our Family. We expect the best, that is all, and we want Toyota to stay at the top! Hell, I am not going back to the other options out there.
I read somewhere that rust proofing vehicles because of salt costs automakers over $4 billion a year. I wouldn't think it costs that much to salt our roads annually, I dont think it even comes close.
i think its great that toyota is taking the approach to buy back these trucks! If i had this happen to me and the company responsible actually took responsibility for it I would be looking to purchase from them again!
I wonder what the big 3 would do with such an issue? (food for thought)
I wonder what the big 3 would do with such an issue? (food for thought)
They would turn their backs unless the government forced a total recall. I have been there with GM & Chrysler and their peeling paint problems back in the '90's. They were not forced to recall and dealt with the issues on a per case basis. If you were not a steady customer that bought new cars every year, guess what? Too BAD for You. Took both to small claims court and won settlements both times.
That is why I drive Toyota and Honda.
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